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If the appropriate pages of the 1803 almanac are scanned into electronic
files by a list member and emailed to me, I will endeavor to post them
on www.LD-DEADLINK-com. I only have about 5MB of space left, but I am
happy to devote it at least temporarily to these files if they would be
useful to the L$C Lunar Working Group.

Arthur Pearson
arthurpearson@hotmail.com


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From: Navigation Mailing List
[mailto:NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM] On Behalf Of George
Huxtable
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:27 PM
To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
Subject: Re: Lewis and Clark lunars: a request for help.

Frank Reed commented as follows-

>George H wrote:
>"For the lunartics on this list, here's something of a challenge (and
others
>should switch off now). What will be required is a computer-program
that can
>calculate positions of bodies in the sky back to 200 years ago."
>
>And several people replied to George with suggestions for software that
he
>might use, but I don't think that's what he was trying to say. Software
to do
>this is widely available. George, I am nearly certain, already has
access to
>software that does these calculations. I believe he was trying to say
that
>if any
>of the list's lunatics wanted to work on this problem that *they* would
>require software capable of calculating positions of heavenly bodies in
1803.

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Frank has understood what I'm after, precisely.

My own calculations were based on a home-brewed program, based on Meeus,
which runs on a programmable calculator.

This investigation requires that EVERYTHING be looked at with a leary
eye,
including that program. I have some confidence in the numbers my program
comes up with, after comparing its prediction with a lunar distance in
the
1803 almanac, and finding that they agree within an arc-minute. If
someone
is brave enough to calculate this L&C longitude for themselves, the more
independent it is of my own calculation, the more likely it will be to
uncover an error somewhere.

When I said-
"What will be required is a computer-program that can calculate
positions
of bodies in the sky back to 200 years ago."
I meant that such a program would be a necessary tool for anyone who
tried
to recalculate these lunars.

There's an alternative to that computer program, however, which is to do
what L&C had to do, and work it all out using the predictions in the
1803
Nautical Almanac. I have copied down the relevant entries from that
Almanac, from a copy in the library, and if anyone asks I will
cheerfully
transcribe that information in a posting. Bruce Stark has kindly
contacted
me off-list to offer to photocopy the relevant pages from his own 1803
Almanac, if another listmember would offer to post them up somehow, and
this could be a better alternative still. Note that taking this 1803
Nautical Almanac route implies that times have to be specified in
Greenwich
Apparent Time, not Greenwich Mean Time (the difference being the
"Equation
of Time").

I should acknowledge a text mistake in that last posting , which anyone
who
tries to implement it is likely to notice straightaway. In analysing
their
equal-altitude obs., I started a paragraph with "Now the times 1, 2, 3
can
be averaged, and also, 3, 4, and 5." It should have read, of course,
"Now
the times 1, 2, 3 can be averaged, and also, 4, 5, and 6.". Sorry about
that.

Thanks for the helpful responses, off-list and on-list, which show that
many listmembers have taken my problem seriously. Please keep them
coming.

Yours, George.

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