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    Re: List Status: we've moved successfully...
    From: Craig Z
    Date: 2006 May 18, 18:38 -0500

    Gents,

    one that that I haven't seen mentioned is getting a dump of the old
    mailing list.

    Even if it is a few GB of data I'm sure some of us would be happy to
    store it. Multiple copies = data security.

    So, is it possible?




    On 5/19/06, Fred Hebard <Fred@acf.org> wrote:
    >
    > I agree thoroughly here.  I was suggesting that Google might want to
    > update their software to provide the features of the Nav-L archive
    > for all their lists, and that Frank might want to contact them to
    > suggest this.  This point is moot, however, if we can't migrate the
    > old archives to Google, and if they don't maintain the archive going
    > back to day one.  Some list archives migrate off of HTML severs,
    > which is very inconvenient.
    >
    > The other point is that I believe the existing Nav-L archive should
    > be a current member of the Google list so that it is kept up to
    > date.  Additionally, I believe the current archive of the Google list
    > should be added to the Nav-L archive; perhaps the dates could be
    > spoofed.
    >
    > Frank suggested he might be rolling his own archive.  This might not
    > be too good as who would maintain the codebase, and archive, were he
    > no longer here?  Or Frank may be looking into other archives.
    >
    > Fred
    >
    > On May 18, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Peter Fogg wrote:
    >
    > > Have looked at Google's "advanced search". While it may be
    > > impressive I'm not sure it offers much more than was available
    > > through Google or its competitors with respect to the old archive.
    > > More to the point, it doesn't offer what we had, as pointed out by
    > > Alexandre:
    > > "The Nav-L archiv permits you to see all messages
    > > for a given month, and to sort them in several ways:"
    > > It seems I'm not the only one who finds that simple list by
    > > cronological order, modifiable, a very useful feature.
    > >
    > > On 5/19/06, Greg R. <gregr_ingest@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > Peter wrote:
    > >
    > > > Am not sure how amenable Google is going to be about setting up an
    > > > archive for our requirements. Would it be possible to set up an
    > > > archive that functions as well as the one we have been using?
    > >
    > > If this group works the same as other Google Groups that I've used
    > > (some of them that I've setup myself for various discussion/project
    > > groups), there's an extensive search engine already built in. Try this
    > > URL and see if it'll work for what you want:
    > > http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&.
    > >
    > > Hope that helps.
    > >
    > > --
    > > GregR
    > >
    > > --- Peter Fogg < peter.fogg@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Am not sure how amenable Google is going to be about setting up an
    > > > archive
    > > > for our requirements. Would it be possible to set up an archive that
    > > > functions as well as the one we have been using? And includes all
    > > the
    > > > old
    > > > messages, as well as ones to come?
    > > > Its kind of ironic to be taking a step backwards in this department
    > > > when the
    > > > rationale of setting up another list was the terrible (?)
    > > problems of
    > > > the
    > > > old one ...
    > > >
    > > > On 5/19/06, Fred Hebard <Fred@acf.org> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Frank,
    > > > >
    > > > > It might be useful to pass this info onto the Google folks, as
    > > well
    > > > > as getting the current Nav-L archive to archive all the NavList
    > > > > messages.
    > > > >
    > > > > Fred
    > > > >
    > > > > On May 18, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Dear Frank,
    > > > > >
    > > > > >> We're in the  process of deciding how to create
    > > > > >> a web-based archive that might be
    > > > > >> more  directly under control of list members.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > The NavList archiv has some substantial disadvantages
    > > > > > in comparison with the Nav-L archiv.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > You cannot see a list of all messages.
    > > > > > (Or maybe I don't know how).
    > > > > > The Nav-L archiv permits you to see all messages
    > > > > > for a given month, and to sort them in several ways:
    > > > > > "by thread", "by author", and "by date".
    > > > > >
    > > > > > There is nothing like that in the new NavList archiv,
    > > > > > it only shows you the topic titles... which makes it much less
    > > > > > useful.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Alex.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    >
    >
    > >
    >

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