NavList:

I agree thoroughly here.  I was suggesting that Google might want to 
update their software to provide the features of the Nav-L archive 
for all their lists, and that Frank might want to contact them to 
suggest this.  This point is moot, however, if we can't migrate the 
old archives to Google, and if they don't maintain the archive going 
back to day one.  Some list archives migrate off of HTML severs, 
which is very inconvenient.

The other point is that I believe the existing Nav-L archive should 
be a current member of the Google list so that it is kept up to 
date.  Additionally, I believe the current archive of the Google list 
should be added to the Nav-L archive; perhaps the dates could be 
spoofed.

Frank suggested he might be rolling his own archive.  This might not 
be too good as who would maintain the codebase, and archive, were he 
no longer here?  Or Frank may be looking into other archives.

Fred

On May 18, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Peter Fogg wrote:

> Have looked at Google's "advanced search". While it may be 
> impressive I'm not sure it offers much more than was available 
> through Google or its competitors with respect to the old archive. 
> More to the point, it doesn't offer what we had, as pointed out by 
> Alexandre:
> "The Nav-L archiv permits you to see all messages
> for a given month, and to sort them in several ways:"
> It seems I'm not the only one who finds that simple list by 
> cronological order, modifiable, a very useful feature.
>
> On 5/19/06, Greg R. <gregr_ingest@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>
> > Am not sure how amenable Google is going to be about setting up an
> > archive for our requirements. Would it be possible to set up an
> > archive that functions as well as the one we have been using?
>
> If this group works the same as other Google Groups that I've used
> (some of them that I've setup myself for various discussion/project
> groups), there's an extensive search engine already built in. Try this
> URL and see if it'll work for what you want:
> http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> --
> GregR
>
> --- Peter Fogg < peter.fogg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Am not sure how amenable Google is going to be about setting up an
> > archive
> > for our requirements. Would it be possible to set up an archive that
> > functions as well as the one we have been using? And includes all 
> the
> > old
> > messages, as well as ones to come?
> > Its kind of ironic to be taking a step backwards in this department
> > when the
> > rationale of setting up another list was the terrible (?) 
> problems of
> > the
> > old one ...
> >
> > On 5/19/06, Fred Hebard <Fred@acf.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Frank,
> > >
> > > It might be useful to pass this info onto the Google folks, as 
> well
> > > as getting the current Nav-L archive to archive all the NavList
> > > messages.
> > >
> > > Fred
> > >
> > > On May 18, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Frank,
> > > >
> > > >> We're in the  process of deciding how to create
> > > >> a web-based archive that might be
> > > >> more  directly under control of list members.
> > > >
> > > > The NavList archiv has some substantial disadvantages
> > > > in comparison with the Nav-L archiv.
> > > >
> > > > You cannot see a list of all messages.
> > > > (Or maybe I don't know how).
> > > > The Nav-L archiv permits you to see all messages
> > > > for a given month, and to sort them in several ways:
> > > > "by thread", "by author", and "by date".
> > > >
> > > > There is nothing like that in the new NavList archiv,
> > > > it only shows you the topic titles... which makes it much less
> > > > useful.
> > > >
> > > > Alex.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > >
>
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>
> >


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