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Re: Lunar Distances with Alex's SNO-T
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2006 Oct 31, 12:51 -0500
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2006 Oct 31, 12:51 -0500
Thanks, Fred. This seems to be a demo with limited features, and I am not sure where on the map elevation is shown, and in which units. Can you give an example? Alex On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Fred Hebard wrote: > > > Alex, > > The website, http://www.topozone.com/ has topographic maps covering > the U.S., from which you can extract your elevation to the nearest 20 > feet or so, which is close enough. > > Fred > > On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote: > > > > > > > Jean-Philippe, > > Thanks. > > I have no problems with conversion of units, > > (though it is sometimes annoying with pressure > > for which at least 5 different units are commonly used: > > psi(=punds/square inch), millibar(=1000 dynes/square centimeter), > > Pascal (not to be confused with psi:-), > > inches of mercury and > > millimeters of mercury. > > And I almost forgot the sixth unit: the atmosphere:-) > > > > Most barometers on e-bay use one or two of these units, > > so one has to hand a conversion table besides the barometer:-) > > > > Is there a convenient source on the web to find one's altitude > > over the sea level, (I mean for those unfortunate ones > > who do not live on a sea shore)? > > > > Alex. > > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, jean-philippe planas wrote: > > > >> If you know the elevation of your observation spot as well as the > >> atmospheric pressure reduced to sea level (QNH for the pilots) you > >> can determine the local pressure (QFE for the pilots) knowing the > >> fact that every 28 ft of altitude the pressure decreases by 1 > >> millibar in the lower standard atmosphere . I'll look for the > >> formula in inches of mercury if its the way the weather channel > >> provides this info. > >> JPP > >> > >> Fred Hebardwrote: > >> > >> That's correct! I started looking into this, but gave up. > >> Hopefully, the physicists will jump in here. > >> > >> On Oct 31, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Fred, > >>> I see, this sounds reasonable. > >>> But then I need a barometer, or to correct > >>> the pressure from the Weather channel for > >>> my altitude, because, > >>> if I understand correctly, the pressure broadcast > >>> for the weather prediction is reduced to the sea level. > >>> > >>> Alex > >>> > >>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Fred Hebard wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Alex, > >>>> > >>>> Use the actual pressure. That is the determinant for the refraction > >>>> correction. The elevation above sea level has an insignificant > >>>> effect on parallax, when you consider that the radius of the > >>>> earth is > >>>> about 3400 nautical miles, but significantly reduces refraction via > >>>> the effect on barometric pressure. > >>>> > >>>> Fred > >>>> > >>>> On Oct 31, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Related question: the barometric pressure in the refraction > >>>>> formula. > >>>>> Should I use the actual pressure at my observation site, > >>>>> or should I "reduce it to the sea level"? > >>>>> The actual pressure at my site reflects not only the deviation > >>>>> from the standard atmosphere but also my altitude over the sea > >>>>> level. > >>>>> > >>>>> Alex > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> JPP > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on > >> the new Yahoo.com > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to NavList@fer3.com To , send email to NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---