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Re: Lunar Distances with Alex's SNO-T
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2006 Oct 31, 15:23 -0500
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2006 Oct 31, 15:23 -0500
Fred, Thanks a lot. How did you find my appartment, by the address or by co-ordinates? :-) Alex. On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Fred Hebard wrote: > > > Alex, > > It's full featured. There's a search box, and you can change the > size and zoom of the map, and look at maps of different scale. It > starts out with the 7.5' series maps. The captions are cut off, but > the contours have elevation in feet above sea level marked here and > there, always on the darker lines, and you can count the divisions > between. Your apartment in West Lafayette has the 670 contour > running through the middle. The fine contours there are at 10 foot > intervals. > > Fred > > On Oct 31, 2006, at 12:51 PM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks, Fred. > > This seems to be a demo with limited features, > > and I am not sure where on the map elevation > > is shown, and in which units. > > Can you give an example? > > > > Alex > > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Fred Hebard wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Alex, > >> > >> The website, http://www.topozone.com/ has topographic maps covering > >> the U.S., from which you can extract your elevation to the nearest 20 > >> feet or so, which is close enough. > >> > >> Fred > >> > >> On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Jean-Philippe, > >>> Thanks. > >>> I have no problems with conversion of units, > >>> (though it is sometimes annoying with pressure > >>> for which at least 5 different units are commonly used: > >>> psi(=punds/square inch), millibar(=1000 dynes/square centimeter), > >>> Pascal (not to be confused with psi:-), > >>> inches of mercury and > >>> millimeters of mercury. > >>> And I almost forgot the sixth unit: the atmosphere:-) > >>> > >>> Most barometers on e-bay use one or two of these units, > >>> so one has to hand a conversion table besides the barometer:-) > >>> > >>> Is there a convenient source on the web to find one's altitude > >>> over the sea level, (I mean for those unfortunate ones > >>> who do not live on a sea shore)? > >>> > >>> Alex. > >>> > >>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, jean-philippe planas wrote: > >>> > >>>> If you know the elevation of your observation spot as well as the > >>>> atmospheric pressure reduced to sea level (QNH for the pilots) you > >>>> can determine the local pressure (QFE for the pilots) knowing the > >>>> fact that every 28 ft of altitude the pressure decreases by 1 > >>>> millibar in the lower standard atmosphere . I'll look for the > >>>> formula in inches of mercury if its the way the weather channel > >>>> provides this info. > >>>> JPP > >>>> > >>>> Fred Hebardwrote: > >>>> > >>>> That's correct! I started looking into this, but gave up. > >>>> Hopefully, the physicists will jump in here. > >>>> > >>>> On Oct 31, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Fred, > >>>>> I see, this sounds reasonable. > >>>>> But then I need a barometer, or to correct > >>>>> the pressure from the Weather channel for > >>>>> my altitude, because, > >>>>> if I understand correctly, the pressure broadcast > >>>>> for the weather prediction is reduced to the sea level. > >>>>> > >>>>> Alex > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Fred Hebard wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Alex, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Use the actual pressure. That is the determinant for the > >>>>>> refraction > >>>>>> correction. The elevation above sea level has an insignificant > >>>>>> effect on parallax, when you consider that the radius of the > >>>>>> earth is > >>>>>> about 3400 nautical miles, but significantly reduces > >>>>>> refraction via > >>>>>> the effect on barometric pressure. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fred > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Oct 31, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Related question: the barometric pressure in the refraction > >>>>>>> formula. > >>>>>>> Should I use the actual pressure at my observation site, > >>>>>>> or should I "reduce it to the sea level"? > >>>>>>> The actual pressure at my site reflects not only the deviation > >>>>>>> from the standard atmosphere but also my altitude over the sea > >>>>>>> level. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Alex > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> JPP > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------- > >>>> Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on > >>>> the new Yahoo.com > >>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to NavList@fer3.com To , send email to NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---