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    Re: Lunar distance without altitudes
    From: Brad Morris
    Date: 2012 Dec 28, 12:54 -0500

    Hi Randall

    The objective in measuring the altitudes is to form an assessment of the correction in lunar distance due to refraction. 

    Since the true altitude is a straight-forward application of spherical trig, we can obtain both the true (uncorrected) altitude AND estimate the refraction for each, without actually measuring them!  With these (and other factors), we can clear the lunar distance.

    Its perfectly valid. 

    Frank's online calculator gives you the option to measure the altitudes or to just calculate them.  Frank would hardly let you have that option if it wasn't.

    Kind Regards,
    Brad

    On Dec 28, 2012 12:28 PM, "Randall Morrow" <randall.f.morrow@kp.org> wrote:

    In an article about Lewis & Clarks navigation I see references to a Lunar distance method without real time altitude measurements being required. Instead they use a calculated pair of altitudes.

    "Patterson’s Problem 4th, which is also a part of his notebook,
    describes a method of calculating the altitude of a body at any instant
    using the known latitude of the observer; the estimated longitude; a
    Greenwich time for that instant calculated from the estimated longitude
    and the difference between the watch time of the instant and the
    watch time of noon (with a correction for watch rate).
    Although this is a reasonable procedure and gives excellent results,
    it seems to have been controversial at the time."
    Richard S. Preston, Physics Department, Northern Illinois University

    Can anyone tell me if this is valid?
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