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Re: Lunar4.4. vs Frank's online calculator
From: Paul Hirose
Date: 2023 Apr 26, 23:41 -0700
From: Paul Hirose
Date: 2023 Apr 26, 23:41 -0700
I duplicated the results of Modris Fersters with Lunar 4.4 (DE441
ephemeris).
time
2023-04-02 18:40:00.00 UT1
2023-04-02 18:41:09.48 TT
+1m09.48s delta T
position
24°00.00' +56°00.00' east lon, north lat
0.0 meters (0 feet) above ellipsoid
atmosphere
10.0 C (50.0 F) at observer
1010.0 mb (29.83″ Hg) air pressure
50.0% relative humidity
Moon
44°11.89' computed unrefracted center altitude
15.02' unrefracted semidiameter
0.98' refraction
44°27.90' apparent upper limb altitude
148°17.17' predicted azimuth
Venus
16°52.49' computed unrefracted center altitude
3.14' refraction
16°55.63' apparent center altitude
278°45.19' predicted azimuth
My program recommends Moon upper limb and Venus far limb. It also has a
"center of light" option. But in this case, Venus phase angle is 58°, so
I don't think there's much error if observe Venus center and ignore
phase. The easy way is to select "center" for the Venus distance limb
(in the program main window). Then the output omits a correction for
Venus SD:
topocentric apparent Moon to Venus angle:
104°03.44' center to center, unrefracted
3.25' refraction
104°00.19' center to center, refracted
-15.02' Moon near limb refracted SD
103°45.17' computed Moon to Venus
The last line is identical to his value. But is it correct? You can get
azimuth, altitude, and angular diameter from the JPL Horizons online
ephemeris. (Does not give semidiameter.) Apply refraction to the
altitudes, then compute separation angle. Subtract Moon SD. (Lunar 4.4
says refraction has no effect on SD at 0.01' precision.)
https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons/app.html#/
Careful - observer coordinate order is longitude, latitude, height.
There is an option to apply standard refraction, but I have never used it.
I would investigate this myself, but it's time to go to bed.
--
Paul Hirose
sofajpl.com






