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A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding
From: Antoine Couëtte
Date: 2025 Dec 5, 13:41 -0800
Resistance if futile. You will be assimiliated.
Interesting examples which I just took time to rework.
Lunars report 3 angles : Lunar distance, and "corrected" heights of 2 Bodies corrected for only dip and refraction.
With modern computation power, it is possible to directly transform these 3 angles into UT, Lat and Lon at the time of the Lunar and compare with Navigators' published results.
1st Example , On Aug 25th, 1830 (TT-UT = +7.4s), Lunar distance 80°42.45' with SUNL = 36°14' and MOONL = 44°49'
Retro-engineered uncorrected hights (hoe = 0 m with "standard" P & T) SUNL = 36°15.3' MOONL = 44°50'
OWN RESULTS
Lunar taken at 17h58m20s UT1 from position N24°34.4' W034°27.9' with a cleared distance 80°48.2'
To be compared with:
NAVIGATOR's results : DR Latitude N24°51' (some 2h10 m earlier) and Lunar Longitude W034°11'15".
Discussion: Unfortunate uncertainty (but that's the way they navigated then) about the Latitude which was probably [much] closer to N24°34.4' since Themis was most probably sailing south.
Actual NAVIGATOR's Longitude error close to 15' . Reasonable blue water fix.
2nd Example : On Aug 28th, 1830 (TT-UT = +7.4s) , Lunar distance 114°42.9' with SUNL = 27°25' and MOONL = 28°52'
Retro-engineered uncorrected heights (hoe = 0 m with "standard" P & T) SUNL = 27°26.8' MOONL = 28°53.8'
OWN RESULTS
Lunar taken at 18h19m59.7s UT1 from position N17°32.3' W030°50.7' with a cleared distance 114°35.4'
To be compared with:
NAVIGATOR's results DR Latitude N18°20' (some 2h earlier) and Lunar Longitude W030°39.5'.
Discussion: Unfortunate uncertainty (but that's the way they navigated then) about the Latitude which was probably [much] closer to N17°32.3' since Themis probably kept sailing south.
Actual NAVIGATOR's Longitude error close to 11' . Looking good, and certainly well within uncertainties safely permitted in the open sea.
Kermit






