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Re: Manufacture new Bygraves?
From: Gary LaPook
Date: 2009 Jul 03, 13:02 -0700
From: Gary LaPook
Date: 2009 Jul 03, 13:02 -0700
I have had great success with printing the scales of the flat Bygrave and wrapping them around a tube and sealing them in place with clear adhesive plastic sheets. Here are some pictures of one example: http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=106329&y=200809 Links to the scales: http://www.fer3.com/arc/img/107473.lapook2.pdf http://www.fer3.com/arc/img/107473.lapook1.pdf http://www.fer3.com/arc/img/108719.revised%20form%206-18-09.pdf http://www.fer3.com/arc/img/107419.bygrave-manual.pdf I picture of one made by Geoffrey Kolb: http://www.pisces-press.com/graphics/Bygrave.jpg Try it. gl Hanno Ix wrote: > Hello: > > I agree. Bygraves could be build. > > However, there are some cumbersome questions, the most obvious being, > How to generate a drum-shaped scales with the required accuracy and > resolution. Remember, we will have to maintain sub-millimeter acc/res > over many turns, with "many" meaning perhaps 20 to 50. This should be > possible, but is still not easy. > > If someone could generate the mechanical construction and quality > assurance methods for this challenge we could talk about manufacturing > more seriously. Her are my ideas: > > Personally, I am thinking of an ink-jet head printing on a turning > drum where the printing is synchronised with a digital encoder on the > drum' s axis. The process control could be handled by one of the > relatively simple contollers on the market. > > Another approach would be to replace the ink-jet printing with an > engraving system. > With the first I personally have experience, with the second none > whatsoever. > > However, more problems lurk. What are the limits for excentricity of > the drums when in use? How about friction? How to stabilize the thing > when under the influence of temparature changes, humidity, sun's UV, > spray salt water, etc, etc. > > So, you can see that the conceptual simplicity of the Byraves is > offset by many practical obstacles. > > Compare this, for instance, with the Ageton method (H.O. 211)! Only 12 > pages of a table, a sheet of paper and a pencil is virtually all you > need to get a generally higher res/acc than with a practical Bygrave. > > Yes, you will also need the skill and concentration to exercise the HO > 211 calculations under virtually any condition at sea - particularly > when you are a submarine commander at war. Well, I guess, in this case > a Bygrave, well designed under a government contract, does make sense! > > > > > > > --- On *Fri, 7/3/09, Greg Rudzinski //* wrote: > > > From: Greg Rudzinski > Subject: [NavList 8924] Re: Manufacture new Bygraves? > To: "NavList" > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 9:40 AM > > > There must be a combination of PVC tubing that fits on itself snugly. > If the white PVC were engraved with black and red scale markings as a > regular plastic slide rule is then I think you would have something. > > On Jul 3, 12:18 am, > wrote: > > A few years ago, when I and a couple of friends wanted each to > own a gear hobbing machine, we cooperated. One made the casting > patterns and saw them through the local foundry, another did the > heavy machining and I did the small parts like feedscrews and > their nuts. It occurs to me that several handy people could > combine their skills to produce replica Bygraves slide rules. > There will surely be someone who knows where to access tubing in > which each size nests snuggly in the next largest size, someone > else will know how to produce hard-wearing replica scales, another > may be prepared to turn the bobbins at each end and I would > volunteer to do small bits of metalwork. The results do not have > to make profits, though a little would be nice. Since there seem > to be very few surviving Bygraves calculators, one could at least > have the satisfaction of owning a replica. The starting point of > course would have to be accurate, dimensioned drawings of an > original, preferably following the metric system, so the > manufacturing consortium would not have to be confined to the USA. > > > > Any offers/takers? > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---