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Re: Mathematics Question
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2006 Mar 30, 20:23 -0800
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2006 Mar 30, 20:23 -0800
I would disagree with "steradian." I think an earlier writer put it well - for parts of a circle we distinguish between an arc (a portion of a circle), the angle subtended by the arc, and the length of the arc (angle times radius). Steradian is the equivalent of the angle, not the arc... In fact, http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae174.cfm uses the analogy directly: "Steradians are a measure of the angular 'area' subtended by a two dimensional surface about the origin in three dimensional space, just as a radian is a measure of the angle subtended by a one dimensional line about the origin in two dimensional (plane) space. Steradians are equivalently referred to as 'square radians.'" Earlier today Herbert Prinz pointed out that in German there's a distinction between the solid angle and the section of the sphere subtended by it; the latter is called a "Kugelkappe" which translates literally as "sphere/ball cap" Lu Abel Robert Eno wrote: > Thanks to all for a most informative discussion. > > Just to let you know, I contacted a mathematician at the University of > Waterloo Department of Pure Mathematics to pose this question. He didn't > even bat an eye at the idea of some crackpot from the netherworld asking > for > obscure information. Unfortunately, he did not have an answer but he > promised to run it by his colleagues and get back to me. I in turn, will > report back to the list if I get an answer other than the ones provided. He > did, however, suggest that "steradian" may be an appropriate description. > > Robert > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alexandre E Eremenko"> To: > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: Mathematics Question > > >> Dear Robert, >> >> It is possible that I misunderstood your question. >> It was not clear whether you asked about "arc" or >> about "arc measure". >> >> For a mathematician, an arc is a geometric object, a set, >> something you can see. "Arc measure" is just a number. >> >> It is like a difference between the lot of land on which your >> house stands and the number which is how many acres are >> in this lot of land. Or the difference between you, yourself, >> and your height:-) >> >> The set itself (=the geometric object, the piece of the sphere) >> in 3 dimensions is called variously a "cap" a "cup" or "sperical disc". >> Its SIZE is measured in square radians and called the "solid angle" >> as many list members pointed out. >> >> Thunk of the sentence "this cap has the solid ange of 0.0003 square >> radians" >> as an analog of the sentence "this lot has the area of 1.25 acres". >> >> >> Alex. >> >>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006, Robert Eno wrote: >>> >>> > A math question for list: >>> > >>> > Given that a segment of a circle >>> > is called an "arc", can anyone >>> > tell me what its two-dimensional >>> > equivalent on a sphere is called? >>> > >>> > Robert >>> > >>> >>> > >