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    Message formatting
    From: George Huxtable
    Date: 2010 Mar 19, 10:04 -0000

    I seem to need a bit of advice, please, about email message formatting.
    There are some things I am failing to understand.
    
    My messages are always sent and returned as simple emails. I seldom visit
    the "message board".
    
    Years ago, when I used a Mac, with Eudora, I didn't ask it to wrap the
    length of sent lines; just allowed paragraphs to be transmitted as a long
    stream of characters, to which  return character would be applied by the
    receiving end as it thought fit. This seemed to satisfy everyone.
    
    When I switched to a PC, and Outlook Express, this appeared to impose a
    maximum length of sent lines, to 132 characters, for some reason. When sent
    with such a limit, this presented no difficulties at my end. My own
    messages, reflected back to me, fitted into the available line length. But
    others protested that it gave rise to problems if they wanted to quote or
    edit that content. Without really understanding why, I then limited the
    maximum line length, as sent, to 72 characters, about half as many as my
    screen display would conveniently allow, and that seemed to keep everyone
    happy. "Like poetry", was how Alex Eremenko described it.
    
    That's the situation that prevailed until a few days ago.
    
    I have no particular wish to be writing poetry, and half-filled screens,
    and printed pages, seem to me an unnecessary waste of space. Emails from
    the postings of others seem to happily spread across and fit my screen
    display, so presumably lack any "hard return" characters, so why couldn't
    mine?. So, as a few days ago I wished to send an email (not to this list)
    containing tabular stuff that really called for longer line lengths, I
    increased the line length that Outlook Express can send to the maximum
    allowed, 132 characters. And then left it at that. Since then, my own
    emails have been reflected back to me, comfortably filling my screen, and
    no longer looking  like a newspaper column.
    
    But now, I've just been informed, off-list,  by another regular Navlist
    poster, that this changed format gives him serious problems. I thank him
    for this useful information. His messages arrive to him via Internet
    Explorer 8, and he tells me that this message, recently sent-
    http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=112402&y=201003 ,
    has become particularly garbled. Most of it has run right off the
    screen-edge to the right (which doesn't seem to happen when I view it with
    IE7), also this and other messages suffer from showing alternate
    short-lines and long-lines (which I can see clearly when I look at that
    link with IE7).
    
    But even when I look into that posting, I can see that although nearly all
    lines are truncated at about 80  characters, curiously just one line, in
    quoted text near the end, seems to have an extra 15 or so characters. How
    does that happen?
    
    It seems to me that the short-lines, long-lines problem occurs because
    messages transmitted from the message board via Internet Explorer have, at
    some point, a return character inserted into them, wrapping after 80
    characters or so, which, in addition to the hard end-of-line sent out by me
    after 132 characters, produces that alternating pattern of long and short
    lines. What's the origin of that imposed return, and why is it set at that
    value? Is it within IE at my end, and can I alter it? Is there any general
    guidance could be offered to Navlist members who post via email, about the
    formatting of their messages?
    
    For now, I hope to have got around the problem by wrapping line lengths at
    75 characters, and will resend the offending message in that format. If
    readers have found any other of my recent messages to be impenetrable in
    that way, please say, and I'll resend.
    
    George.
    
    contact George Huxtable, at  george@hux.me.uk
    or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
    
    
    
    
    

       
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