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Dear all,

for someone like me - who is mostly lurking - the discussion during the last
few days is most fascinating: like a sociological experiment in how to
disturb a peaceful community by dropping the hint that things that they rely
upon - smooth funtioning of things based on the belief that everything is
functioning smoothly - may not be justified. It may really not have beeen
functioning smoothly all the time but nobody has raised the question before
and the few instances of things not really functioning 100% so far have not
been noticed or disturbed anybody. Because we basically know: in the real
world things do not function 100% - apart from the sun rising in the east
every morning - so we have not been bothered by a few missing messages, we
might have missed them anyway.

But then somebody rings the bell - and everything changes. Causes are
discussed, alternatives - a new list - are set up. Everybody then wonders
what will happen, if a new list is set up (who is going to control it - who
controlled the old list - who controlled the old archive - who is going to
control the new archive, and so on). Nobody is discussing the things any
more that this list presumably is all about: navigation. Instead messages to
the "world" are being sent and responded to by real peaople like Pavlov's
dog.

As I said: most interesting. A sociologist researching the interpersonal
relationships in mailing lists in the early 21st century will have a ball
some time in the future when he stumbles across this particular period in
the navl archive.

Regards,
Wolfgang

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Navigation Mailing List
[mailto:NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM]Im Auftrag von George
Huxtable
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. April 2006 20:54
An: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
Betreff: Missing mailings.


In common with many others, I have received a copy of Frank Reed's latest
test posting.

Clearly, there are many Nav-l members waiting for news out there.

So far, I have received neither of the two items "posted missing", referred
to previously.

One was the first posting in a thread "compass card with more than 360
degrees"; the other with threadname "compute sun's position".
Of course there may be others I have missed; if so, I am unlikely to find
out.

I have requested investigation into what are clearly serious distribution
problems at Nav-l. I have provided Dan Hogan with header
information for a message that took 4 months to get from the webkahuna host
to my ISP (1 of 16). But there has been no response, so
far.

The good ship "Nav-l" continues to take on water, clearly holed below the
waterline. Her captain appears reluctant to leave the poop
and go below into the hold to investigate the damage, denying that there's
anything amiss.

I have to admit, somewhat reluctantly, that Frank may be right. It may make
sense to jump ship, into the vessel that he has
provided; imperfect though those arrangements may be.

George.

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