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Re: [Nav-l] Missing messages
From: Dan Hogan
Date: 2006 Apr 14, 06:50 -0700
From: Dan Hogan
Date: 2006 Apr 14, 06:50 -0700
MESSAGES Mailing List messages travel in "packets", there is no guarantee that the entire message will go as one packet. The packets travel via various internet servers to their destination address. They will be held at some point prior to delivery until the message packets are complete then delivered. A glitch ANY WHERE in the path will stop delivery. Most glitches happen in winter. Any kind of a voltage spike in the system as the message travels can alter the message's code and stop it, or send it into electron heaven. SUBSCRIBER REMOVAL FROM LIST When messages are not accepted at the intended mail address they are bounced back to the sender. In navigation-l it is the address listed as owner of the list. Who then determines what to do to correct the problem. Bounced subscribers are and removed from the list for the following reasons.There will be a BOUNCE message for each message from Nav-L to the address. 1. The addressee has a mailbox that has a quota and it is full (usually the FREE Email addresses). 2. The addressee went on vacation closed his mailbox but did not signoff from navigation-l. 3. There is a problem with the addressees' ISP and messages are bouncing. 4. The addressee changes ISP or closes his address without signingoff from navigation-l The owner of the list is responsible for maintaining the list. No magic program exists that determines who should and should not be removed. I usually TRY to wait 5 days before deleting an address. But every message to that closed address from Nav-L generates a bounce message. And it takes time to keep track of each one. There is NO way for the an Email list or any server of knowing when someone, dies, change address, or fail to renew their ISP. The internet and the Email system can not generate information it can only disseminate it. If you want your messages handled in a special way, it is YOUR responsibility to set it up for your self. There is no magic clairvoyant program. It is the responsibility of the Navigation-L SUBSCRIBER to follow the protocol of the Email list to keep it running smoothly. That means READ and FOLLOW the !@%&X! Nav-L *WELCOME* message. *************************WELCOME******************************************** ************ WELCOME TO NAVIGATION-L THE NON-ELECTRONIC NAVIGATION EMAIL LIST <> INTRODUCTION Navigation-L is a list primarily dedicated to the study and discussion of all methods and techniques of the art of non-electronic navigation. Our aim is to practice and study the traditional navigation techniques. All topics involving non-electronic navigation are acceptable. Notices about electronic navigation are acceptable, but prolonged discussions should be taken off line. The list is open to all levels of navigation knowledge from beginners to experts. We hope that you participate in the discussions on Navigation-L. 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