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Re: Missing messages (for Dan Hogan, etc.)
From: Clive Sutherland
Date: 2006 Feb 9, 08:37 -0000
From: Clive Sutherland
Date: 2006 Feb 9, 08:37 -0000
Dan, et al; This morning I received three messages from NAV-L, all from Ken Gebhart all from the same server. All of them were welcome and in no way exceptional. The first message was labelled ***SPAM*** The last two were not. Reading the header information, the first message was given rating by something called X-ME-Spamlevel of 'notspam' and X-ME- spamrating ' 70.15 ' . The last two were each designated 'notspam' ; 47.3 and 44.5 respectively. The first message was labelled ***spam*** on its title and would ordinarily have been invisibly dumped by my filter had I not been watching out for this. Somewhere between Nav-l and my ISP messages are being vetted and false reputations attached. Regards, Clive. ---- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Hogan"To: Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Missing messages (for Dan Hogan, etc.) >> [Original Message] >> From: George Huxtable >> To: >> Date: 2/8/2006 1:52:28 PM >> Subject: Missing messages (for Dan Hogan, etc.) > > [SNIP of SPAM Problem] > >> How can we deal with this? First, is it really a genuine problem, > affecting many Nav-L members? > > I am having the same problem my Spam filter marks certain Nav-L messages > as > spam. > >> Second, am I right in diagnosing it as a spam-filter problem? > > Definitely a SPAM filter problem. > >> Second, can we at least be sure when we are missing messages? Would it be > possible for Nav-L to >> attach a serial number to each message, incrementing by 1? Could this be > appended to the "subject" >> line, perhaps? Or even automatically inserted as the first line in the > text? Then, we could be quite >> sure about what's being missed. I am no expert on such matters, so have > no idea whether such a >> suggestion would be impossible to implement, or trivially easy. > > Both. Most individual ISPs have their own Spam Filters and individual > computer users have spam filters. > I would use only ONE program. > > One need to know and understand how each Spam Filter operates. The are NOT > alike. > >> One approach may be for me to ignore Nav-L incoming Email altogether, and > instead go to the website >> archive. Would that fix the problem? > > That's doing it the hard way. Find out how your spam filters the messages > and how to set the ALLOW filter. > Also the problem can occur with the way the Email Client program produces > the message headings and addresses. > > My ISP (Earthlink) has their own Spam, Virus, and Pop-Up programs I > switched to hem from Symantic. > > I get 2-3 Nav-L messages in my Suspicious Message file a day. I OK them > for > incoming mail and they seem to not repeat. > But you need to check in the suspicious file of what ever Spam Program you > use. And don't set it to delete ALL Spam. > Use the built in filters of the program > >> It seems that those damned spammers are destroying the usefulness of > emails. Must they win? > > I hope not. > > Dan Hogan > dhhogan1@earthlink.net > http://www.offsoundings.info/navl.htm > >