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Re: Modern Lunars
From: Paul Hirose
Date: 2016 Sep 25, 16:44 -0700
From: Paul Hirose
Date: 2016 Sep 25, 16:44 -0700
On 2016-09-25 3:08, Antoine Couëtte wrote: > BTW, could you *not* perform the Moon "center of mass to center of figure correction" more accurately now since the most recent modern Theories also give Libration angles. *Yes?* It's true that many (not all) JPL ephemerides include the libration angles. No doubt accuracy would improve if they were applied to a mathematical model of the limb. But I think even the standard fixed corrections of +0.5″ in longitude and -0.25″ can be ignored in most lunar distance computations. My software has an option (by default it's not selected) to apply them if the user wants extra accuracy. A sextant is readable to 6″, and my goal is 0.6″ accuracy. (There is a rule of thumb in electronics that test equipment should be 10x better than the device under test.) I think we can hit that target, or get pretty close, with the standard corrections. I'm surprised that you didn't comment on the 0.0002° systematic discrepancy in our topocentric apparent unrefracted Moon position in the 1855 lunar. That's 0.7″. > Modern computing power enables to tackle Lunars [much] better than the Classical Methods could and can [ever] do it. The Sextant "Observed Refracted Distances" have now become the main computation variables and benchmarks. No longer need to use the Classical [and formerly unavoidable] intermediate variables - i.e. the "*Cleared Distances*" - which sometimes vary with Time (UT1) in a manner totally different from their Observed Sextant Distances counterparts. I've never seen any evidence that the "modern lunar" has a significant advantage over the traditional solution if you avoid unfavorable altitudes and separation angles. I'm open to the possibility, but skeptical. > *** from "**About Lunars**" by our [very] much regretted George Huxtable who was the first one actually whom I personally contacted about Lunars. Dear old George, gone but not forgotten.