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Re: The Nautical Mile and the arc minute
From: Gary LaPook
Date: 2015 Jun 5, 17:50 -0700
From: Gary LaPook
Date: 2015 Jun 5, 17:50 -0700
I have to make a correction, the size of a longitude error caused by an error in the assumed latitude varies with the co-tan of the azimuth, not the cosecant. So that an azimuth of 135 degrees the co-tan is 1, the longitude will be in error equal to the error in the latitude. For a 150 azimuth co-tan = 1.7 so longitude error is 1.7 times the error in latitude, 3.1' for a 1.8' error in latitude. Azimuth 100 degrees, co-tan = 0.18 so longitude error is only 0.3' . gl -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 6/5/15, Gary LaPookwrote: Subject: [NavList] Re: The Nautical Mile and the arc minute To: garylapook@pacbell.net Date: Friday, June 5, 2015, 4:26 PM Except when the body is on the "prime vertical" azimuth 90 or 270 in which case the latitude in not needed as the resulting longitude line (LOP running 360-180) is not sensitive to errors in latitude. Other wise you use your noon sight latitude adjusted by DR to the time of the afternoon time sight or carry the noon latitude back to the time of a morning time sight. So, if the time sight was taken at 9:00 and the vessel is moving at 6 knots covering 18 NM in that time period. If we assume an uncertainty in DR of 10% (which is used in flight navigation but probably way too high for marine navigation, Frank have you any data for DR uncertainty for surface navigation) then the latitude uncertainty would be +/- 1.8 minutes used in doing the time sight computation for longitude. If the azimuth of the sun were 90 degrees then there would be no error in the longitude. If the azimuth was 135 degrees then there would be +/- 2.5 NM (cosecant times 1.8). If the azimuth was 150 degrees then 3.6 NM. This is exactly what Sumner did, assumed different latitudes and computed the resulting longitudes. gl From: Francis Upchurch To: garylapook---.net Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 2:51 PM Subject: [NavList] Re: The Nautical Mile and the arc minute Thanks Frank,Wonderful exposition of what we are all about.re the issue of old time (e.g.time sights) versus Sumner/St. Hilaire ,am I correct in thinking that you need accurate latitude to get good longitude by the old methods and that is not the case for the new methods, and hence their appartent superiority? Correct me if I have this wrong.Francis View and reply to this message View and reply to this message