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Re: Navigating Around Hills and Dips in the Ocean
From: Fred Hebard
Date: 2003 Aug 18, 11:32 -0400
From: Fred Hebard
Date: 2003 Aug 18, 11:32 -0400
Just how big are the largest of these dips and rises? We have estimates ranging from 20 to 200 meters. A 400-meter change in elevation of the sea surface is hard to imagine. I might note, however, that work would be done moving across a gradient in the gravitational field even if there were no change in sea-surface elevation. It would seem that accounting for a 400-meter-equivalent change in gravity might be a worthwhile consideration in ship routing. How many tons of fuel would that be equivalent to, assuming some standard ship displacement, such as your average oil tanker? Fred On Sunday, Aug 17, 2003, at 08:06 US/Eastern, Trevor J. Kenchington wrote: > Dan Allen asked: > >> Hmmm. How could these dips be known about almost 30 years ago before >> GPS? > > > Satellite radar altimetry. I am not sure when that started but it was > certainly long before GPS and is far more accurate, with measurements > of > sea-surface elevations to a precision of centimeters, I think, and > certainly a metre or so. The longitudinal and latitudinal precision of > the measurements won't be nearly as precise as with GPS but we are not > discussing here small elevations with steep slopes (e.g. wind waves) > but > rather large, low hills and large, shallow dips. > > I have never understood how the altitude of the satellite above the > centre of the Earth is known with sufficient precision for this kind of > work, since its orbit must be distorted by the same gravitational > anomalies as affect the ocean surface. However, either NASA has > gathered > the necessary data for corrections or else the speed of the satellite > combines with its distance from the nearest large mass of anything such > that the error is negligible. > > > Trevor Kenchington > > > -- > Trevor J. Kenchington PhD Gadus@iStar.ca > Gadus Associates, Office(902) 889-9250 > R.R.#1, Musquodoboit Harbour, Fax (902) 889-9251 > Nova Scotia B0J 2L0, CANADA Home (902) 889-3555 > > Science Serving the Fisheries > http://home.istar.ca/~gadus > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Frederick V. Hebard, PhD Email: mailto:Fred@acf.org Staff Pathologist, Meadowview Research Farms Web: http://www.acf.org American Chestnut Foundation Phone: (276) 944-4631 14005 Glenbrook Ave. Fax: (276) 944-0934 Meadowview, VA 24361