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    Obtain a fix when you don't have an clear AP?
    From: Samuel L
    Date: 2015 Jan 8, 18:12 -0800

    There's a youtube video of a man taking 2 Sun sights and asking you to figure out where he's located. Greg got it correct (as you can read in the comments section of the video) using, I assume, his Palm (Pilot?) with Pilot Navigator Version 6.9.

    The time WWV signals are very heard hear and the guy makes little effort to provide you with time or Hs- in other words his presentation is  sloppy.

    What I'm trying to figure out is how you get a position fix when you don't have an obvious Ap Latitude or Ap Longitude? And, I can't plot an intercept that's many hundreds of miles away on a UPS. However, I did figure out the time and Hs of both sights and using Peter Hakel's Lop.xls a fix was obtained. But I'd like to know how to do it on paper either by adjusting the Ap Longitude and resulting LHA which I suppose is the only thing you can adjust. I'm no expert in these matters.

    Link to the video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-SkC3xwE7o

    An AH was used in both shots.

    Here are the particulars from the video-

    1rst shot Date- 2/20/2010

    Time- 17:26:26 UTC

    Hs- 40d 18.2min

    Limb observed- Upper Limb

    My determinations-

    GHA 78d 11min

    Declination- S 10d 46.4min

    Ho- 19d 50.5min

     

    2nd shot Date- 2/21/2010

    Time- 00:16:02 UTC

    Hs- 24d 04.4 min

    Limb observed- Lower Limb

    My determinations-

    GHA 180d 35.5min

    Declination- S 10d 40.3min

    Ho- 12d 14.1min

    Using Peter Hakel's LOP.xls the following fix was obtained-

    N 47d 28.8min

    W 122d 13.9min

     

    Thanks,

    Sam L.

       
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