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Re: Piracy - this time complete message
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2014 Feb 23, 16:52 -0800
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2014 Feb 23, 16:52 -0800
Alan (and the rest of the members of the list):
My goal in posting links to these articles was not to say that armed guards are wrong, but that matters may not be as simple as some may think.
1. In the case of the Maersk Alabama, the article says that the guards were fully vetted by the agency that supplied them. But that their background checks apparently did not include information on any drug problems. Imagine what might have happened if these guys shot drugs that didn't simply kill them but rather sent them on a hallucinogenic rage around the ship with them having the only arms aboard.
2. Similarly, I rely on the article which says the incident involving the Italian Marines is causing difficulties between India and Italy. I'm sure India would prefer a quiet resolution, but according the article the government of the region or state that was home to the fishermen is unwilling to let it drop. As the article states, even the UN Secretary-General has become involved. That's pretty far up the chain.
There's an old saying among engineers (and I assume there are many of us on this list) "In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there often is." I think these two incidents are prime examples.
Lu
My goal in posting links to these articles was not to say that armed guards are wrong, but that matters may not be as simple as some may think.
1. In the case of the Maersk Alabama, the article says that the guards were fully vetted by the agency that supplied them. But that their background checks apparently did not include information on any drug problems. Imagine what might have happened if these guys shot drugs that didn't simply kill them but rather sent them on a hallucinogenic rage around the ship with them having the only arms aboard.
2. Similarly, I rely on the article which says the incident involving the Italian Marines is causing difficulties between India and Italy. I'm sure India would prefer a quiet resolution, but according the article the government of the region or state that was home to the fishermen is unwilling to let it drop. As the article states, even the UN Secretary-General has become involved. That's pretty far up the chain.
There's an old saying among engineers (and I assume there are many of us on this list) "In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there often is." I think these two incidents are prime examples.
Lu
From: Alan S <alan202@verizon.net>
To: luabel@ymail.com
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 11:46 AM
Subject: [NavList] Re: Piracy - this time complete message
Lu:Re the items you mentioned, armed guards found dead from drug overdoses, seems like whomever it was that did the hiring needs some close examination, and or personnel recruitment policies badly need review.As to the Italian Marines firing on and killing what turned out to be "Indian Fishermen", I have no details on that incident. The Marines might have been "trigger happy" and or those "fisherman", might have appeared and acted otherwise.As to this incident causing "political problems" between the two nations, Italy and India, that of course is possible, though such problems can usually be assuaged. Unfortunately, people who might have been innocent, are dead. On the other hand the Marines involved might well be, by the political types, hung out to dry, that too being unfortunate
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