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Plotting LOP's, surveyibg, etc
From: Mike Burkes
Date: 2006 Jun 8, 11:11 -0700
From: Mike Burkes
Date: 2006 Jun 8, 11:11 -0700
Hi Rob u wouldn't happen 2 still have that data l and if u do I would like 2 c it and thanks much! Now off 2 work Dr. Kolbe's astro sites ha! Mike Burkes >Your comment resonates with me. In 1983 or '84, I took a night course in >surveying course at the local University of the City in which I was living >at the time. A good portion of the course entailed doing field work such as >precision levelling and using theodolites to map out geographic features. >The final exam, upon which 100% of our final mark was based, consisted >almost entirely of math problems; more precisely, trigonometry. My mind >went completely blank for the first hour of the three hour exam. I can >still feel the panic after all of these years. All's well that ends well: I >recovered my senses and ended up with a respectable B+ after burning >through the exam with a resolute sense of purpose. > >Fast forward 20 some years to a remote site where I was assisting a survey >tech in mapping out an abandoned military base. He set up a black box with >a powerful telescope after which our summer student and myself scrambled -- >with an ATV -- all over an area measuring several square miles armed with a >reflector rod (I can't remember the actual name of the device). I think the >survey tech had to set up maybe three times. After two 8 hour days of this, >the techie loaded the contents of his black box into a computer and presto! >He had a detailed map of the immediate area complete with contour lines, >lakes, buildings, rocks and anything else that struck our fancy. And I >didn't see him perform a single calculation. Our summer student, however, >was rather tired from all of the racing around. > >Indeed, everything has changed. > >Robert > >----- Original Message ----- >From: MIKE BURKES>Date: Thursday, June 8, 2006 10:00 am >Subject: Re: Plotting LOP's > > > Yes Robert I cannot agree more! I am preparing for a career change to > > surveying (anyone know of any entry level positions?) and that > > field also > > has undergone the eletronic transition. With these data collectors > > even the > > time honored field book is electronic but I can understand time is > > money!Mike Burkes > > > > > > >From: Robert Eno > > >Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List > L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM>>To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM > > >Subject: Re: Plotting LOP's > > >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:29:30 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Does anyone besides me see the irony in all of these discussions > > about>electronic plotting, excel spreadsheets and turbo-charged > > calculators with > > >stainless steel exhaust risers against the backdrop of traditional > > >celestial navigation? > > > > > >I will admit I own a Celesticomp V and use it on occassion when I > > really>need a quick fix, however, I derive immense pleasure from > > actually reducing > > >my sights longhand (notwithstanding I use a scientific calculator > > to do the > > >math), and then plotting the LOPs on a good old fashioned > > plotting sheet; > > >whether it be homemade or commercially produced. This is part of > > the joy of > > >the craft and I find it therapeutic and relaxing. Think of sight > > reduction>as foreplay. Ya gotta work hard and incrementally in > > order to get to home > > >base. And when you do, what can be more satisfying than a series > > of tight > > >LOPs on a plotting sheet and the knowledge of a job well done? > > > > > >Give me pencil and paper anytime...and yes, a set of trig and log > > tables.> > > >Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: Guy Schwartz > > > > > >Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2006 11:40 pm > > > > > >Subject: Plotting LOP's > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone come up with a method of having a computer plot LOP's > > > > with Excel or other standard software. > > > > I know there are specialized products such as Navigator and Star > > > > pilot that will do it. > > > > Thanks > > > > Guy > >