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Re: Polynesian canoes set off from New Zealand to Raiatea (French Polynesia)
From: Peter Fogg
Date: 2010 Apr 26, 14:28 +1000
From: Peter Fogg
Date: 2010 Apr 26, 14:28 +1000
"...a completely different vessel"
Hmm. Are you sure, George? Could it, instead, be likely that these craft are somewhat similar? Particularly as your Cook Islands Voyaging Society site appears to think so:
"The 22 metre canoes are modeled on the Cook Islands traditional double-hulled canoe ‘Te Au O Tonga’ "
(The above should be a link to the relevant page on http://www.voyaging.co.ck/)
And as Douglas has pointed out, that boat has timber mast and stays with rope rigging.
On the other hand, we learn that there are "support vessels". In plural ! Other, non-traditional-Polynesian boats accompanying them, apparently. Other yachties, whether Polynesian or not, could be involved; for all I know they may even have some documentary film crew in a dedicated boat recording the sail. Goodo.
Goodo since whether rigged with rope or with metal alloy, whether accompanied by support vessels or not, they have set sail much too late to prove that their ancestors sailed similar craft using Polynesian navigational techniques.
However, it could be a wonderful sail.
Hmm. Are you sure, George? Could it, instead, be likely that these craft are somewhat similar? Particularly as your Cook Islands Voyaging Society site appears to think so:
"The 22 metre canoes are modeled on the Cook Islands traditional double-hulled canoe ‘Te Au O Tonga’ "
23 April 2010 8:07 a.m
(The above should be a link to the relevant page on http://www.voyaging.co.ck/)
And as Douglas has pointed out, that boat has timber mast and stays with rope rigging.On the other hand, we learn that there are "support vessels". In plural ! Other, non-traditional-Polynesian boats accompanying them, apparently. Other yachties, whether Polynesian or not, could be involved; for all I know they may even have some documentary film crew in a dedicated boat recording the sail. Goodo.
Goodo since whether rigged with rope or with metal alloy, whether accompanied by support vessels or not, they have set sail much too late to prove that their ancestors sailed similar craft using Polynesian navigational techniques.
However, it could be a wonderful sail.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:06 AM, George Huxtable <george@hux.me.uk> wrote:
That website states, about the picture Douglas Denny refers to-
"The Traditional Voyaging Vaka ‘Te Au O Tonga’ was badly damaged during the
5 cyclones that hit Rarotonga in February 2005. Despite efforts to secure
the Vaka from sustaining damage during the cyclones one of the hulls was
smashed and other damage was incurred."
It was a completely different vessel to those under discussion.
George.
contact George Huxtable, at george@hux.me.uk
or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Denny" <douglas.denny@btopenworld.com>
To: <NavList@fer3.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 11:55 PM
Subject: [NavList] Re: Polynesian canoes set off from New Zealand to
Raiatea (French Polynesia)
On the website George points to, there are photos of the vessel 'Vaka Te Au
O' including repairs to one of the hulls in the later numbered sets of
photos. Curiously the website does not give details of the boat.
The hull appears to be of mainly wooden construction (ply?) on frames, with
wooden mast and rope rigging.
Douglas Denny.
Chichester. England.
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