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Position by azimuth of stars
From: Bill Lionheart
Date: 2024 Jan 22, 18:20 +0000
From: Bill Lionheart
Date: 2024 Jan 22, 18:20 +0000
I was playin with apps on my phone that give a compass graticule overlaid on an image from a front facing camera, sometimes, Lat and Long, a map etc as well. Neat, I thought, this is the new "monocular compass" (well you can also stick on a monocular but my camera has a telephoto lens anyway). But some of the apps I tried only worked with the phone horizontal. I presume they misread the output from the magnetometer. That had me thinking. Suppose you point a camera upwards and have a good compass to orient it. That would give you the azimuth of astronomical bodies near your Geographical position. So some quick calculations (open to refinement). Suppose you observe with six degrees of arc of your Zenith and get the azimuth to an accuracy of 1 degree (maybe OK with enough averaging and stabilization). The density of "visible" stars (for some value of visible, lets say a clear night away from light pollution) is around 0.1 to 0.2 stars per square degree I think. Well it actually varies a lot but suppose this hypothetical device is sitting there watching the sky all the time with nothing better to do and sometimes gets lucky with lots of stars near the Zenith. So 6 degree FOV radius is about 360 square degrees, so we will have between 3 and 7 starts to work with typically. So we have position lines as though we took bearings on the GP of the stars and work as though it was a hand bearing compass fix on objects up to 360 Nautical miles away. A one degree error is about 6 nautical mile as 360 nautical miles, but that is the extreme and much of the time there will be stars closer to the GP. If we average over time (and have good accelerometers and DR) and combine more than 3 LOP, etc we can perhaps do as well as a round of sextant sights, but with a less accurate horizontal needed easier to automate. So a few comments. This is not even back of the envelope. I just thought of it driving so I may well have made some mistakes. I usually do. Even if I did for some star density, accuracy etc it would work in theory. Feedback welcome. While it would be handy to have a giro stabilized camera looking up, we could also pattern match the visible stars and average as the field of view moves around, maybe a wider field of view. Presumably the wealth of astrophotography algorithms would help. If I am right it needs an approximate vertical but not a horizontal to minutes of arc as is traditional. Typically on ocean crossings one fix per 24 hours is fine. This could give quite a few fixes in the night, and could be automated. Presumably either this has been tried and didn't work but maybe not with the current technology. One can buy an automated deep sky astrophotography set up for a few hundred pounds now (eg ZWO Seestar), and computation can often be a substitute for more expensive optics. You can also get automated camera gimbals cheaply, beloved of the social media vloggers. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and corrections. Bill Lionheart