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Re: Problem with a sextant
From: Bill B
Date: 2006 Apr 28, 02:03 -0500
From: Bill B
Date: 2006 Apr 28, 02:03 -0500
> Bill, > >> With a large flat tip it will >> measure the high points along the arc and not dip into the teeth. > > I see. Then the problem is how to attach it to the arm rigidly. Yes. > >> Easily done if a magnetic base could be used, but alas.... > > ??? Sextants are not made of iron. They are non-magnetic. Yes, therefore the "but alas... > >> My method would secure the arm and move the frame. > > How do you imagine securing the arm? You also need to secure your > measuring devise, so that it does not move with respect to arm. I have given it little thought, as it initially would point to one (or a combination of) of three possible defects, none of which I can affect. The best one could do is what you have already done. Measure the error in a dynamic rather than static situation, and adjust for it in your observations. > >> case you measure the distance from the pivot point to wherever the tip of >> the dial indicator is located on the arc. > > That is the excentricity. > Though I am very sceptical. Yoiu have to secure the arm and the > gauge to the same firm foundation (how?) and be sure that the > gauge is oriented towards the pivot of the arc. Not a huge problem, but what is the point? It is a static measurement. I for one use static measurements to set up a tool in theory. Only after I get it up and running and make a cut do I know what it will do with all the little variables included. For example, in a simple device like a table saw, the blade may not be perfectly flat, they will be arbor runnout due to its bearing, pulleys, belts etc. Is the miter slot (which I initially aligned the blade to) perfectly straight and parallel to the other miter slot that I align the fence to? What are the tolerances in grinding the cast-iron top etc.? Point being, if anything in the system moves, static measurement are only a beginning. What matters is how it behaves in operating conditions and how to calibrate/adjust for reality vs. theory. I have a $29 (Chinese) 9" X 12" X 2" granite surface plate (lapping stone), certified to be within plus/minus .0001" of flat at 20d Celsius plus/minus 5d C. This is measured with the Auto Collimator, "which can detect surface errors optically to 0.000005" per inch." This my friend is what you need, I think, to finally satisfy your quest to determine the machining of the Sno-T. In the global overview, Formula-1 race cars, fighter jets, and space craft are machined by some of the best shops in the world. That doesn't seem to stop them from crashing and burning--or just plane old blowing up--does it?> >> Again, I am not clear this is the measurement you are looking for. My >> reading is you want the distance from a given point on one tooth to the >> next. > > That's what I originally wanted. But then again you have to secure the > gauge to the arm. I feel measuring tooth-to-tooth would be a different setup, and outside the scope of a dining room table or garage workshop for most of us. Bill