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Re: Reality check
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2006 Jun 7, 01:18 EDT
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2006 Jun 7, 01:18 EDT
"Agreed, but I thought the original question was whether you could fix your position anywhere in the world with celestial without having an initial DR or EP (I guess technically since it wasn't specified originally that could be interpreted to mean either with or without a sextant...)." Right. My point is that you will always have an excellent estimate of your position, just by looking straight up. "1) Without a sextant (or some other reasonably accurate measuring device), where exactly is the zenith? Dunno about you, but my neck isn't exactly calibrated in degrees - and if I recall correctly, that's the main reason that we measure up from the horizon instead to find altitude (and it gets converted to co-altitude "automatically" either with tables or using a mathematical formula so arranged to take that measurement into account)." As you noted, a meridian sight of any known celestial body with a sextant is scarcely more complicated than the simple "zenith sight" and you get latitude accurately, longitude somewhat less accurately. That's a position from one sight (better yet a brief series of sights) and no DR or AP required as an input, so long as you have a watch that's reading GMT or a known zone time. "2) Assuming that an observer can find their zenith accurately, what if no celestial objects happen to transit their GP at that particular time of the year?" At night, under a dark sky, you can still get a very good estimate of the Dec and SHA of the zenith if you have a basic star chart. Good enough, at least, so that you would know your location within a degree or two easily. -FER 42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W. www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars