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Re: Sea level defines Empire
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2015 Apr 9, 23:13 +0000
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2015 Apr 9, 23:13 +0000
But if I "landfill" a tidal reef, can I claim "dry land" for EEZ purposes??
From: Gary LaPook <NoReply_LaPook@fer3.com>
To: luabel@ymail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 1:16 PM
Subject: [NavList] Re: Sea level defines Empire
That's right, the rights to the wealth in and under the sea in the "exclusive economic zone" is the real issue. But the EEZ is at a defined radius of 200 NM surrounding a piece of dry land, no land, no EEZ, no wealth.gl
From: Lu Abel <NoReply_LuAbel@fer3.com>
To: garylapook---.net
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 10:31 AM
Subject: [NavList] Re: Sea level defines Empire
I would point out that territorial sea rights are likely far, far more important these days than actual dabs of land. There have been lots of disputes over sea rights in the South China Sea between China, Vietnam, and others -- fishing rights and oil drilling rights among others.Interesting idea, though -- landfill on a reef to create "territory"
From: Francis Upchurch <NoReply_Upchurch@fer3.com>
To: luabel{at}ymail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 12:26 AM
Subject: [NavList] Re: Sea level defines Empire
Wonderful, Frank!According to Wikipedia, a Chinese Frigate ran aground on their newly created reef! Wonder if they were using up to date charts? Ha Ha.Apparently discovered by British sailor Henry Spratly and named Mischief after a German crew member of that name? (Umh?). Not claimed for the then already overloaded British Empire, (thank goodness, one less argument with the Chinese).Nothing new in navigation or empire building.FrancisFrom: NavList@fer3.com [mailto:NavList@fer3.com] On Behalf Of Frank Reed
Sent: 09 April 2015 07:07
To: francisupchurch---.com
Subject: [NavList] Sea level defines EmpireLast month, in the context of the Vesta Wind racing yacht grounding on a vast atoll in the Indian Ocean, so well-known that it can be found on the smallest of globes even 75 years ago, I mentioned my feeling as a cartographer that very shallow water, non-navigable shallows, deserve the same attention as dry land in some mapping contexts. But why wait? The 'powers that be' can build land in those shallows if map-makers refuse to comply. The Chinese have learned this lesson... Make islands, create sovereignty... Read on...Frank Reed
ReedNavigation.com / HistoricalAtlas.com
Conanicut Island USA
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