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Re: Sea level rise (off-topic)
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2006 Jul 9, 18:08 -0500
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2006 Jul 9, 18:08 -0500
Hello Geoffrey, you wrote: "But there is a definite trend for a rising sea level - particularly at the end of the 20th century." Thanks, that's very interesting. The POL site is loaded with good data. It's also connected with the NOAA site (see below). Note that the "Permanent Service for Mean Sea Level" is located at the Proudman Oceanographic Lab. Have you looked at any of the sea level graphs at the web site that I pointed out previously? Here's the address again: http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends.html Try some of the US sites, like "The Battery" in New York, which I've mentioned already. Below the map, note "Other CO-OPS Stations" and "Global Stations". There are many tidal data sets from locations all around the globe accessible via these links. In the great majority, there is no evidence for any upswing at the end of the 20th century. That is, whatever linear trend is visible in the first half of the 20th century appears to continue right through to the present. Do you have any opinion or thoughts on why that is? For example, take a look at the tide gauge data for Brest, France. If you squint at it, there's maybe a hint of an upswing at the very end (the data for this station end in the year 2000), but it's smaller than other variations in earlier decades, certainly nothing that yells out "changed trend". Similarly have a look at the tide gauge data for Bombay/Mumbai, India. The trend appears to be solidly linear. For another US example, look at Key West, Florida. Sea level IS rising, but it's rising at a steady rate. So far at least, there's no upswing, no "hockey stick", as they put it. In the link you pointed out, at least one tide station does show a recent upswing, but it seems to be a relatively unique case. How do we reconcile that with the long-term linear trends in so many other tide stations? And you also wrote: "On the matter of Global Warming, there seems no doubt now that after 900 years in which the mean temperature in the Northern Hemisphere was relatively constant, as measured using the historical evidence garnered from tree rings, corals, ice cores, ocean sediments, glacier lengths and historical records; the temperature started to climb sharply at the start of the 20th century and continues to do so. The so called "hockey stick" curve gets clearer and more definite as more data gets thrown at it - a sure sign that it is not just a "bump on the graph"." I don't know of many people who claim that temperature has been constant for the 900 years before 1900. Did the cooling known as the "Little Ice Age" not happen after all? Again, it may well be that sea level is going to start on some steeper sloped trend line three days after yesterday, but the tide gauge data shows nothing like that yet --except in a few isolated spots. -FER 42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W. www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to NavList@fer3.com To , send email to NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---