NavList:
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Re: Setting NavList DORMANT
From: Eddie C. Dost
Date: 2006 Jun 4, 00:51 +0200
From: Eddie C. Dost
Date: 2006 Jun 4, 00:51 +0200
This discussion is foolish overall. Especially when it comes to "big companies" hosting the list. Did anyone take a look at where Navigation-L is hosted? - This is a server run by L-Soft. Take a look at L-Softs products: They have listserv and an e-mail marketing tool, the root of all spam we don't want. Now, if you'd really want to solve this issue, including lost e-mails, no banners, and being not run on a "big server" I would suggest running this on a server at a university, at an ISP, or a private server with reliable internet connection. The server needs to be accessible physically by some person on the list and this person must be able to configure and maintain "mailman" or some other mailing list software, including the ability to debug and trace e-mails received and sent. The archive could be kept where it is for now, with the option to setup something similar (maybe based on Frank's work) on that server. I have several Linux servers at home running on Sun Sparc machines, well backuped an equiped with RAID disks, but I have also have 2-3 outages of several hours on my DSL line per year. I will look around for a place to install such a service based on GPL software for the mailing list, and keep you informed. I find the argument to be independant of some big company worth while considering, but I don't see how that counts with a company selling e-mail marketing software... So everyone knows who to blame I will sign this with my full name and my coordinates. Just my thoughts on the topic, from the point of view of a software and network engineer. Thanks, Christian "Eddie" Dost ecd@brainaid.de http://brainaid.de/people/ecd 50N44 006E00 On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 02:20:49PM -0700, Frank Reed wrote: > > It appears that the opportunity to move the group to a new server has > been lost. There are simply too many people in the group who are > emotionally attached to the webkahnua service so there's no way to do > this cleanly any longer. > > As I have stated repeatedly, I have no interest in splitting the > community. This is not an "opposition list", as Peter Fogg put it. > > I'm going to set this list dormant as of midnight tonight, and I > enourage everyone to post on Navigation-L from now on. In the event > that Navigation-L crashes permanently, NavList can be re-opened on a > moment's notice. You do not need to . > > -FER > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > To post to this group, send email to NavList@fer3.com > To , send email to NavList-@fer3.com > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -- __________________________________________________brainaid______________ Christian Dost brainaid GbR Bluecher & Dost software Monheimsallee 45 phone +49 241 5151 138 D-52062 Aachen fax +49 241 5151 139 ecd@brainaid.de Germany cell +49 172 9312808