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    Re: Setting NavList DORMANT
    From: Peter Fogg
    Date: 2006 Jun 5, 10:40 +1000

    Frank wrote, about George's
    
    > ""With Frank in charge, I fear it would be like playing  a game of
    > street football, when the other side owns the ball."
    > That  seems to heve been particularly prescient, now that Frank has
    > suddenly and  unilaterally decided to walk off with his ball, and
    > suspend NavList; just  like that."
    >
    > Insulting posts are inappropriate, and you know that.
    
    
    Can't see any insult there, Frank, it seems fairly factual and accurate.
    Note you haven't addressed other pertinent points George raised, such as:
    was it 'your' list to summarily kill off over a fit of pique, it seems, or
    was it 'ours' that you were kindly managing in an entirely non-obtrusive
    fashion?
    
    Kill off? I suspect so. Its all a bit sad, as 'your' list was bubbling along
    nicely and had every potential to evolve its own identity and personality,
    to become an asset for us all. What about the posters who preferred your
    list and were actively using it? Why did this have to happen so suddenly,
    what could have been the harm of taking a 'wait and see' approach? This
    experiment all seems to have been a lot of noise, bombast, and promise
    followed by a damp fizzle. What a pity.
    
    > As for taking away your "ball", there is nothing that you CANNOT do now
    > that
    > you COULD do previously. So where is this figurative "ball" that I have
    > supposedly taken away??
    
    Well, at the risk of pointing out the bleeding obvious; George can't post to
    NavList. Can't initiate or respond to discussions there. D'uh.
    
    > Relax, George. You haven't lost anything.
    
    Again the obvious: we have all lost.
    
    > I will  reiterate: I have no interest in creating a schism in this
    > discussion group.
    
    Bit late to say that.
    
    > there is no point keeping a service which is almost
    > functionally identical active.
    
    How do you know? And again, why weren't the real 'owners' consulted?
    
    > If those differences eventually become strong enough
    > reasons to  move the group to NavList on googlegroups, then we are all set
    > to go!
    
    After this I would imagine you'll have a hard time getting this community to
    take you seriously again.
    
    > I would even be happy to see you,
    > George, as an owner of that list when we actually MOVE to that service
    
    George doesn't want to be a manager (a better word). Like almost all others,
    he wants to be a poster. Nuance. The manager is a bit like a puppeteer:
    least seen the better. What has happened to your other co-owner? Not, it
    would seem, a post to be relished.
    
    > costs a quarter to play (!!).
    
    Double exclamation marks just don't cut it.
    
    
    

       
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