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Re: Sextant Repairs
From: Robert Gainer
Date: 2004 Aug 1, 13:43 +0000
From: Robert Gainer
Date: 2004 Aug 1, 13:43 +0000
After seeing what you guys have, my piece of �string� is a downright embarrassment. This is one of the few times that I am glad that I don�t have a digital camera and that I am slow to type a response to some of the posts I see go by. Just to keep up with the rest of you I am now making a fancier lanyard. Robert Gainer >From: Joel Jacobs>Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List >To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM >Subject: Re: SEXTANT REPAIRS >Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 09:26:28 -0400 > >Courtney, > >I am glad to see our well rounded navigator Jim Thompson has this one in >his >bag of tricks. > >This one is not as fancy as some. >http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/767317/P8010002.JPG > >BTW, Boatswain's Mates take great pride in their rope work. > >Joel > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Courtney Thomas" >To: >Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:02 AM >Subject: Re: SEXTANT REPAIRS > > > > Requesting a lanyard picture, please..... > > > > > > > > > > Joel Jacobs wrote: > > > > > I haven't got the time to spend on making sextant repairs, but if >anyone >has > > > the need for Tamaya or C. Plath parts they are welcome to check with >me. >I > > > might be able to come up with something. Some of these parts such as a > > > filter housing, with filters, may be drilled and tapped to fit other >makes. > > > The same for legs. Unless you're a purist, $75.00 U.S. plus shipping >is >a > > > bit steep for each filter for most of us. > > > > > > SEXTANT DAMAGE: I made a very fancy "rope work" lanyard like those >used > > > with a bo'sun pipe, which I wore around my neck attached to my >sextant. >In > > > all the years at sea on small craft where the forces can be extreme , >I > > > never had any damage. I suggest others might find this useful. I can >send a > > > picture of one attached to a bo'sun pipe to those interested. > > > > > > ATB, > > > > > > Joel Jacobs > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robert Gainer" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 6:52 PM > > > Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants! > > > > > > > > > > > >>In the time that I have been cruising, I have had to resilver the >mirrors > > >>once. Replace a leg on both the Freiberger and the Cassens & Plath, >once > > >> > > > on > > > > > >>each. I had a friend make a mirror adjusting screw and the >mirror-locating > > >>pin for a Heath that I have. I just sent the horizon filter assembly >back > > >> > > > to > > > > > >>Cassens & Plath to have a filter replaced (60 euro per glass). The >only > > >>sextant that I own that has not had some work done on it is my >Brandis. >If > > >>you sail long enough or far enough in a small boat you will need to > > >> > > > replace > > > > > >>the light assembles or a leg on your sextant, it will happen. The >price >of > > >>the parts is not the issue. I don't think that if the cost of the leg >were > > >>double it would make any difference. You only buy the part once in 30 > > >> > > > years. > > > > > >>Add to this the leg only cost 25 dollars, if it were twice as much so > > >> > > > what. > > > > > >>But if you can't get the part when you need it, now that's a problem. >I > > >>would hate to throw away the Plath because the filter was not >available. > > >>Before I bought any thing like a sextant you can be sure that I would >find > > >>out who is going to service it and if they can they give me some >assurance > > >>on the availability of parts. If the sextant is damaged so much that >you > > >>need the help of a repair shop, then I think its time to shop for a > > >>replacement. If the frame were bent, I would not have it repaired. My > > >> > > > office > > > > > >>is in need of some decorations anyway. > > >>All the best, > > >>Robert Gainer > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>From: Joel Jacobs > > >>>Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List > > > >>>To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM > > >>>Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants! > > >>>Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:58:23 -0400 > > >>> > > >>>Courtney, > > >>> > > >>>Sextants that are in use, barring being dropped, shouldn't require >much, > > >>> > > > if > > > > > >>>any service. The most that needs be done would be to replace mirrors >or > > >>>maybe fix the illumination on C. Plaths which is a weak point. You >can > > >>>always have a Plath or Tamaya mirror notched, using a grinding wheel >to > > >>>replace a SNO-T horizon mirror. > > >>> > > >>>Joel Jacobs > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>From: "Courtney Thomas" > > >>>To: > > >>>Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:19 PM > > >>>Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants! > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Joel, > > >>>> > > >>>>What is the situation regarding service/repair of the CHO sextants ? > > >>>> > > >>>>If unavailable, I'd guess the Freiberger, though real high, is at > > >>>> > > > least > > > > > >>>>available. > > >>>> > > >>>>Cordially, > > >>>> > > >>>>Courtney > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>Joel Jacobs wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>Good call Renee, > > >>>>> > > >>>>>The Alexey I was speaking of is at this site. > > >>>>> > > > www.antiques-marine.com > > > > > >>>>>Yuri as below, as you've read has a reputation of faithful dealing, > > >>>>> > > >>>but > > >>>I > > >>> > > >>>>>'ve no personal experience with him. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Rene, the parts of the Freiberger and SNO-T are not >interchangeable. > > >>>>> > > >>>The > > >>> > > >>>>>cost of Freiberger parts in this country is quite high. Check with > > >>>>> > > >>>Claussen > > >>> > > >>>>>Instruments. The owner, Wayne handles sextants personally. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>IMO, a good clean SNO-T should sell for close to $375-$400.00 with >a > > >>>>> > > > 4 > > > > > >>>x > > >>>40 > > >>> > > >>>>>or 3.5 x 40 scope in the U.S. They're worth less than half that > > >>>>> > > > with > > > > > >>>a > > >>>7 x > > >>> > > >>>>>scope. If it has two scopes don't add much for the high powered >one. > > >>>>> > > >>>So, > > >>>you > > >>> > > >>>>>really need to know the scope situation before you can evaluate the > > >>>>>attractiveness of a Russian sextant. And then don't forget the > > >>>>> > > >>>mirrors. > > >>> > > >>>>>Sextant mirrors are horrendously expensive. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>BTW, Mauri had a NEW SNO-T on his site for close to $400.00 which >is > > >>>>> > > >>>quite > > >>> > > >>>>>high considering the shipping. Everyone knows that in the Cyrillic > > >>>>> > > >>>alphabet > > >>> > > >>>>>that S and T are the same? > > >>>>> > > >>>>>A good clean Freiberger should bring from $375-$450, so I >personally > > >>>>> > > >>>don't > > >>> > > >>>>>see much difference between them price wise. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Sextants that are in use, barring being dropped, shouldn't require > > >>>>> > > >>>much > > >>>if > > >>> > > >>>>>any service. The most that needs be done would be to replace >mirrors > > >>>>> > > >>>or > > >>> > > >>>>>maybe fix the illumination on C. Plaths which is a weak point. You > > >>>>> > > > can > > > > > >>>>>always have a Plath or Tamaya mirror notched to replace a SNO-T > > >>>>> > > >>>horizon > > >>> > > >>>>>mirror. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Joel Jacobs > > >>>>> > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>From: "Renee Mattie" > > >>>>>To: > > >>>>>Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 11:57 AM > > >>>>>Subject: Re: Soviet Sextants! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>From: Renee Mattie [mailto:reneemattie@hotmail.com] > > >>>>>>Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:59 AM > > >>>>>>To: 'Navigation Mailing List' > > >>>>>>Subject: RE: [NAV-L] Soviet Sextants! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Joel Jacobs said: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>I am pasting a representative copy of one of my Russian ebay > > >>>>>>> > > > sextant > > > > > >>>>>>listings which > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>discusses the advantages of the Russian SNO-T sextant in > > >>>>>>> > > > particular, > > > > > >>>>>>>and > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>in general. If > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>the seller is "ALEXEY" and I think it is, I have dealt with him a > > >>>>>>>couple > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>of times, and > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>he is totally trustworthy. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>The seller gives contact information of: > > >>>>>>Yuri Margorsky: maur@online.kharkiv.com > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>I don't know if he has any relation to the Alexey you speak of. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>I have a question though: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Robert Gainer said: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Because you can buy the Freiberger for within a few dollars of >the > > >>>>>>>Soviet > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>one, what are > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>you gaining? It's easier to get parts or have the Freiberger > > >>>>>>> > > > serviced > > > > > >>>>>>>and > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>I would feel > more comfortable with it, if for that reason and > > >>>>>> > > >>>nothing > > >>> > > >>>>>>else. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>I know the SNO-T is based closely on the Freiberger. Can it not >use > > >>>>>> > > >>>the > > >>> > > >>>>>>same parts? > > >>>>>>Would it be more difficult to get parts and services for the >SNO-T? > > >>>>>>In general, the Freiberger price of a Freiberger on Ebay is at >least > > >>>>>> > > >>>20% > > >>> > > >>>>>>higher than that for a SNO-T. I am surprised to see maurnavy > > >>>>>> > > > selling > > > > > >>>one > > >>> > > >>>>>>for LESS than the SNO-T. The pictured Freibuger looks perfect > > >>>>>> > > > (though > > > > > >>>>>there > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>are no closeups of any of the parts). 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