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    Re: Stars in pop culture: two celestial where-are-you puzzles
    From: Frank Reed
    Date: 2023 Jun 10, 20:00 -0700

    I guess this set is harder than I thought.

    First image: near the top right is Rigel, and near top center is Alnilam. Those two stars standing vertical near the center, Alnilam and Alnitak, are two out of the three stars in Orion's Belt, and if you've spent enough time scanning the sky with binoculars, then that's "obviously" the "sword" of Orion with M42 in its center above the head of our character Dolores (Bernard is behind her; they're not human!). And latitude --at least intended latitude in a setting that may be an illusion? This is a solvable celestial puzzle with just a little effort. Try to estimate the altitudes of Alnilam and Rigel from the context of the image, and then ask what would the latitude have to be to place both of them at that same altitude. It's a "latitude by equal altitudes" sort of puzzle.

    Second image: the sky is nearly mirrored left to right, which tells us that someone got cheap and skipped post-production where this would have been fixed. Who skipped this step? Probably James Cameron, but he would never admit it such a careless mis-step. And the connection to the lost submarine USS Scorpion? A vessel was discovered in 1986 on the sea floor following a survey of the wreck of Scorpion by that guy Bob Ballard. James Cameron made a movie about that vessel which had some success. Vessel=Movie. In a key closing scene, the "camera" lingers on the sky... And what the heck? The stars are a mess! Is this a joke? They're mirrored left to right! Supposedly this was fixed in a remastered version. The sky in this theatrical release version is just plain wrong, and probably it's random stars dropped in at some stage in the production and then mirrored for a quickie filler (which should have been fixed). Those stars are thus presumably useless to us for navigation. Nonetheless given the setting of the film, we can "cheat" and specify the nearly exact latitude and longitude. Get it?? :)

    Frank Reed

       
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