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    Re: Status of Celestial Nav in 2015
    From: Gary LaPook
    Date: 2015 Mar 5, 23:24 -0800
    A friend of mine took a cruise on a Russian icebreaker to the North Pole, but the ship couldn't actually make it there due to too thick ice. The captain tried to tell the passengers that they had made it but then everybody pulled out their GPS's and waved them in the captain's face.


    From: Brad Morris <NoReply_Morris@fer3.com>
    To: garylapook@pacbell.net
    Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 2:11 PM
    Subject: [NavList] Re: Status of Celestial Nav in 2015

    GPS does indeed work in the polar regions.  In Google Images, search "GPS south pole" and you can observe the one souvenir obtainable at the South Pole Station, to wit: a photo of your hand held GPS reading S90 00 00. 
    I've looked into it.  The last time I checked, its a $30K round trip, with no overnight stay.   They fly you to the South Pole, you walk around for a bit, and you fly back.  The souvenir photo is practically obligatory.

    On Mar 5, 2015 4:29 PM, "Alexandre Eremenko" <NoReply_Eremenko@fer3.com> wrote:
    Is GPS navigation really available everywhere?
    In particular in the Polar regions?
    If not, what is the other reliable way of navigation in polar regions?
    From: NavList@fer3.com [NavList@fer3.com] on behalf of Lu Abel [NoReply_LuAbel@fer3.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:51 PM
    To: eremenko---.edu
    Subject: [NavList] Re: Status of Celestial Nav in 2015
    Remember that this started as a discussion of why one would use celestial in 2015.   Emergency navigation was given as one possibility.   I rather suspect that in the two examples given by Greg the explorer was using celestial as a primary means.   That begs the question of "why?"
          From: Greg Rudzinski 
     To: luabel{at}ymail.com
     Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 4:46 PM
     Subject: [NavList] Re: Status of Celestial Nav in 2015
    Alex,Sam Willis used celestial navigation on his trip down the Grand Canyon last summer. See link to BBC show that has Sam making observations using an artificial horizon.http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2f1pxgGeoffrey Kolbe posted several years back on his North African desert celestial navigation using a bubble octant. http://geoffrey-kolbe.com/C-Nav/index.htmGreg Rudzinski
    From: Alexandre Eremenko
    Date: 2015 Mar 4, 22:00 +0000
    you wrote:
    > I would add remote wilderness travelers to the list of those that might find
    celestial navigation a useful back-up to GPS.
    > A plastic sextant such as the Davis MK 3 wouldn't add much weight to the pack.
    You would add this to the the question or this is a part of an answer?
    Do you know any people traveling in remote wilderness (on land) who are
    using Cel nav, or carry sextants, almanacs, etc.?
    I have never heard of such people in modern times.

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