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Re: Stellarium and the heavens in the 17th century
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2006 Dec 01, 00:21 -0800
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2006 Dec 01, 00:21 -0800
Nicolas, you wrote: "Does anyone of you know Stellarium (http://www.stellarium.org/) and how accurate it is for long gone years? " First, that is one very fine piece of software --a really beautiful planetarium simulator. Thanks for bringing it up. This is the first time I've seen it. As for Stellarium's accuracy, it does not appear to be very high. Comparing positions for any date including current dates, I find typical errors of 30 seconds of arc. For example, at 0600 GMT on December 1, 2006, Stellarium gives the Moon's Declination as 09d 12' 21" while my Online Nautical Almanac (see my web site at www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars) has 09d 12' 42" (geocentric). I don't yet see a way in Stellarium to get geocentric coordinates directly so I extracted the Moon's Dec by travelling to that spot in the Pacific Ocean where the Moon was in the zenith. That nulls out the refraction and parallax. I can't think of any way to explain away a discrepancy of 21 seconds of arc. That's a large error by the standards of this type of software. For a few other cases, I went to December 1, 1770 at 0600 GMT. I find these discrepancies in declination: Object Stellarium my online almanac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deneb 44d 28' 36" 44d 28' 23" Aldebaran 16d 01' 47" 16d 01' 11" Polaris 88d 05' 16" 88d 05' 16" I have extensively tested my own almanac output, which is based internally on the JPL ephemeris data for the Moon and planets and the Hipparcos positions and proper motions for the stars, and it can be trusted to the nearest second of arc. Based on these comparisons, it appears that you could certainly trust the Stellarium positions to one minute of arc (good enough for the vast majority of historical navigation problems), but you should not trust it for anything requiring higher accuracy (like lunars). I should add that there is the possibility that the data displayed in Stellarium refers to some non-standard set of coordinates. So it may still be "correct" and accurate. The source code of Stellarium is available in the Linux download. There is one three megabyte block of code with "VSOP87" in the file name. This is a particular set of calculational algorithms for planetary positions, generally very accurate. If you want really high accuracy (for historical planetary positions in particular), I highly recommend "Solex" created by Aldo Vitagliano: http://chemistry.unina.it/~alvitagl/solex/. This is at the other end of the spectrum from Stellarium. It's extremely accurate over a very long time range, blowing away all the competition, but it has mostly plain text output. -FER --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to NavList@fer3.com To , send email to NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---