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Re: Strange result from MICA
From: Paul Hirose
Date: 2015 Apr 10, 13:21 -0700
From: Paul Hirose
Date: 2015 Apr 10, 13:21 -0700
On 2015-04-09 22:21, Sean C wrote: > However, I'm still not sure about the "/////" result. If you look back to my first post on the subject, you will see the result for the following day was: > > Date Begin Rise Az. Transit Alt. Set Az. End > (UT1) Civil Civil > Twilight Twilight > h m h m ° h m ° h m ° h m > 2015 Apr 09 (Thu) 10:14 10:40 80 17:08 61S 23:35 280 00:01 > > This must mean that the end of civil twilight at this location occurs at 1 minute into the next day UT1 (Apr. 10th), right? So, shouldn't MICA have displayed either "00:00" or "00:01"...or even "?????" (Phenomenon is indeterminate.) for the UT1 calculation on Apr. 8th? As it is, it seems to suggest that the Earth stops rotating briefly. Although that would obviously be absurd. You have a point there. I didn't notice that. If we compute a set of zenith distances near the end of Apr 8 (UT) at 1-min intervals, the best choice for end of civil twilight is 0001 UT on the next day: Sun Apparent Topocentric Positions Local Zenith and True North Newport News Location: W 76°28'36.0", N37°03'18.0", 10m (Longitude referred to Greenwich meridian) Date Time Zenith Azimuth Distance (UT1) Distance (E of N) to Object h m s ° ' " ° ' " AU 2015 Apr 08 23:59:00.0 95 38 53.4 283 39 52.2 1.001341745 2015 Apr 09 00:00:00.0 95 50 30.6 283 49 12.6 1.001342091 2015 Apr 09 00:01:00.0 96 02 07.4 283 58 33.7 1.001342437 In fact, the times for end of civil twilight ca. 2400 UT, computed as above to the nearest 10 sec, are: Apr 7 23:59:50 UT Apr 8 00:00:50 next day Apr 9 00:01:40 next day So the end of evening civil twilight on April 7 happens seconds before the end of the UT day. But look at April 8. As the day begins, we're barely past the end of civil twilight, and it doesn't occur again until about a minute into the next day. Thus MICA is absolutely right, and my earlier explanation was wrong. The phenomenon doesn't occur on the 8th. The times in the rise/set table for Apr 9 UT are all on that date. That means the time for end of twilight at the far right applies to the sunset on the 8th, but the sunset time to its left is for the 9th!