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    Re: Sumner and the Smalls lighthouse.
    From: Fred Hebard
    Date: 2006 Apr 1, 22:16 -0500

    George,
    
    It was a delight to read of your success with the Hydrographic Office.
    
    Regarding Sumner, I wonder whether this falsification is related to
    his subsequent insanity.
    
    Regardless, he did further navigation.
    
    Fred
    
    On Apr 1, 2006, at 7:17 PM, George Huxtable wrote:
    
    > | Bill asked, several weeks ago now, in a thread labelled "Simple
    > celestial navigation in 1897"-
    > |
    > || Back to Sumner, I eagerly await the results of George's
    > inquiries into
    > || Small's/Smalls (and other?) "migrating" lighthouse(s).  It was
    > clearly IMHO
    > || within the abilities of civil engineers to erect such a
    > structure on a
    > || submerged shoal or foundation circa Smalls # 2.  Is relocation
    > the case, or
    > || were there measurement problems?
    >
    > I have tried to get information about the earlier incarnation of
    > the Smalls lighthouse from Trinity
    > House, the lighthouse authority for English waters. They have
    > proved a dead loss, in spite of
    > several nudgings and promises.
    >
    > So I've been to the mailing-list of the Royal Institute of
    > Navigation, at rinforum@rin.org.uk   and
    > had an immediate response from Malcolm Tennant, who kindly responded-
    >
    > ==============
    >
    > Current position according to the United Kingdom Hydrographic Office
    > (UKHO)is 5143.27N, 540.19W.
    > Information on earlier positions of the light will be available in the
    > UKHO Archives but there may be a charge for research.
    >
    > Make your request to research@ukho.gov.uk
    >
    > Rgds
    >
    > Mal Tennant
    > Head of Sailing Directions
    > +44 (0)1823-337900 x 3382
    > mal.tennant@ukho.gov.uk
    >
    > ============
    >
    > So I did just that, and the following day a collection of scans of
    > the relevant parts of several old
    > charts and surveys, of the Sumner era, arrived, without any charge,
    > from -
    >
    > Guy Hannaford
    > Archives Research Manager
    > UK Hydrographic Office
    > Taunton
    > Somerset
    > TA1 2DN
    > UK
    > Tel: 01823 337900 Ext 3409
    > Guy.Hannaford@UKHO.gov.uk
    >
    > I provide these details because it's such a pleasant change to have
    > a prompt, efficient, and
    > relevant response from a government organisation. Nav-L members
    > might like to be aware of the
    > service that's available. I think I was quite lucky to get away
    > without being charged; perhaps
    > because the query was of interest to them. If anyone wants it, I
    > have a copy of their "terms of
    > trading".
    >
    > ================
    >
    > The end-result of all this is to prove what I had suspected; that
    > the old Smalls lighthouse that
    > Sumner saw, and its replacement in 1861, are within a few feet of
    > the same spot on the same rock,
    > the only rock that's always above sea level. And it's all of 5
    > miles away from the spot that Sumner
    > showed it on his sketch map. Unless Sumner happened to possess a
    > chart or light-list that showed the
    > light 5 miles North of where it really was, it seems that he
    > falsified the position of the light so
    > as to make a more dramatic story out of the first "Sumner line". In
    > my eyes, that rather diminishes
    > the stature of Captain Thomas Sumner.
    >
    > George.
    >
    > ===============
    >
    > contact George Huxtable at george@huxtable.u-net.com
    > or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    > or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
    
    
    

       
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