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    Re: Sun sights during an eclipse: "bad limb" calculation
    From: Geoff Hitchcox
    Date: 2023 Oct 10, 17:13 -0700

    Frank, I'm glad you posed this latest scenario, because now I can compare (using *FLAT* Pythagoras code) to 'proper' online Eclipse Calculators.

    To find the time when the Moon 'touched' the LL of the sun, I used (flat Pythagoras) code to find when does an x,y coordinate fit inside a circle (the Moon).

    By extension, using the same approach, when do two circles first touch? (start of eclipse).

    My "test" is now:

    =============================

    delta_az = (sun_az - moon_az) * cos(((sun_alt+moon_alt)/2.0) * PI / 180.0);

    distance = sqrt( pow( (delta_az), 2 ) + pow( (sun_alt - moon_alt), 2 ) );

    if( distance <= (moon_radius + sun_radius) )   // Overlap of circles

    =============================

    Using the JPL Horizons Ephemeris as the source for the position of the Sun and Moon, I found the first and last contact points for the suggested coordinates of (N 28.0 W 90.0) to be:

    2023-Oct-14 15:36:11.5 (UT) = First touch of Moon with the Sun.

    2023-Oct-14 18:51:08.5 (UT) = Last touch of Moon with the Sun.

    DeltaT = 69.182365,

    Note: The smallest increments you can ask for in JPL Horizons = 0.5 seconds (of time).

    Now to compare with other sources (in order of closeness to my results)

    =============================

    XJubier Prediction of Eclipse

    ( ΔT=69.2s)

    Start 15:36:09.9

    End 18:51:09.5

    =============================

    Kermit

    TT-UT = +69.7s

    1st kiss at 15h36m07.3s UT ,  and:

    ending kiss at 18h51m13.1s UT.

    ============================

    USNO Calculator

    Delta T: 72.5s

    Eclipse Begins 15:36:06.7

    Eclipse Ends 18:51:04.0

    =============================
    Nasa Eclipse Calculator
    Unknown DeltaT
    2023-Oct-14P15:36:0442-17:10:3653165-18:51:03500.8260.765

    =============================

    So there are lots of different times to choose from - according to ones predilection ;-) 

    More to come later, after I have gone and voted in our New Zealand General Election!

    Regards, Geoff Hitchcox, Christchurch, New Zealand.

       
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