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Sunrise
From: JC Sutherland
Date: 1999 Apr 24, 5:49 AM
From: JC Sutherland
Date: 1999 Apr 24, 5:49 AM
This is my first link with this group although I have been fascinated by the topics discussed for some time. It is time I introduce myself. I am a yachtsman sailing in UK waters and the Channel. I have been teaching Navigation to my fellow yachtsmen for about 20 years. My interest in Astro-nav goes back to may RAF days which is now a long time ago. For the most part my interest has been in instrumental techniques for maximum precision in navigation.but I have a recent interest which you may like to help me with. "How can I predict the precise TIME and AZIMUTH of SUNRISE on any day and any place." For example: As far as I know the "Green flash" has only been observed at Sunset. Theoretically it should alsobe present at Sunrise but has anyone been looking at the right time and in the right direction to see it? The Altitude, Azimuth etc of the Sun for a range of values around 0 deg altitude can be calculated using the Cosine/Sin formula. Then values of Declination and LHA can be iterated to get the precise UT of sunrise. However this result would only be correct if the earth was spherical and had no atmosphere. The difficult bit is finding the right amount of Refraction to be applied. Even assuming "normal Pressures and Temperatures" there are several equations for calculating refraction but they do not work very well for zero or negative altitudes. Also I don't know of any that take any account of Latitude and I would suppose that refraction in the Tropics would be greater than in higher latitudes. The refraction applied to the Dip of the horizon will be based on the short distance between the Observer and the horizon. On the other hand the refraction applied to the Suns rays must take into account the greater amount of atmospher they pass through "even though the line of sight is exactly the same!" I am assuming that the moment of Sunrise is defined as the instance that the first flash of light is seen and incidently this would also define the precise moment of the observers Millenium on Jan 1 2000. It is nice to talk to you, what do you all think? Clive. J.C.Sutherland Wythburn West Hanney WANTAGE Oxford, UK OX12 0LH