Welcome to the NavList Message Boards.

NavList:

A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding

Compose Your Message

Message:αβγ
Add Images & Files
    Name or NavList Code:
    Email:
       
    Reply
    Re: Time and frequency from electrical power lines
    From: Roger W. Sinnott
    Date: 2018 Aug 17, 18:29 -0400

    If U.S. electric power companies do fully abandon regulated 60-Hz operation, it will make synchronous timing motors obsolete.  These are less common now than in the past, but they're still widely used in, for example, the timers for driveway post lamps.  A few decades back they were very common in clock radios as well as telescope clock drives.  I have a vintage pair of Haines clocks that plug into household AC and run on timing motors, one displaying solar time and the other sidereal.

     

    American troops during the Vietnam War learned what life was like without carefully regulated 60-Hz current.  Most (if not all) bases had large diesel generators for electricity, and their output frequency was only roughly 60 Hz. A clock set one day could be 10 minutes off the next morning. In fact, the famous “Gooood Moooorrrrrning Vietnam!” on the Armed Forces Radio Service (AFRS) provided a time signal of sorts, telling troops to when to get up or risk missing breakfast or a duty muster. They could leave a radio on all night (when the AFRS was off the air), to be awakened at precisely 6 a.m. by the iconic sign-on.

     

    The real-life broadcaster who started doing this in 1965 was Adrian Cronauer.  His successors on the AFRS continued it as war dragged on, and Robin Williams immortalized it in the 1987 movie of the same name.  (By the way, Cronauer died just last month, at age 79.)

     

    Roger

     

     

    ---------Paul Hirose wrote -------    

     

    Only a few years ago the clock on my microwave oven never needed
    adjustment except for daylight saving time changes and the occasional
    power failure. That's no longer the case. An article at the NIST site
    explains. . . .
     
       
    Reply
    Browse Files

    Drop Files

    NavList

    What is NavList?

    NavList is a community devoted to the preservation and practice of celestial navigation and other methods of traditional position-finding. We're a group of navigators, navigation enthusiasts and hobbyists, mathematicians and physicists, and historians interested in all aspects of navigation but primarily those techniques which are non-electronic.

    To post a message, if you are already signed up as a NavList member, start a new discussion or reply to any posted message and use your posting code (this is a simple low-security password assigned when you join). You may also join by posting. Your first on-topic messsage automatically makes you a member, and a posting code will be assigned and emailed to you for future posts.

    Uniquely, the NavList message boards also permit full interaction entirely by email. You can optionally receive individual posts or daily digests by email, and any member can post messages by email (bypassing the web site) by sending to our posting address which is "NavList@NavList.net". This functionality is similar to a traditional Internet mailing list: post by email, read by email, reply by email. Most members will prefer the web interface here for posting and replying to messages.

    NavList is more than an online community... more about that another day.

    © Copyright notice: please note that the rights to all messages and posts in this discussion group are held by their respective authors. No messages or text or images extracted from messages may be reproduced without the explicit consent of the message author. Email me, Frank Reed, if you have any questions.

    Join / Get NavList ID Code

    Name:
    (please, no nicknames or handles)
    Email:
    Do you want to receive all group messages by email?
    Yes No

    A NavList ID Code guarantees your identity in NavList posts and allows faster posting of messages.

    Retrieve a NavList ID Code

    Enter the email address associated with your NavList messages. Your NavList code will be emailed to you immediately.
    Email:

    Email Settings

    NavList ID Code:

    Custom Index

    Subject:
    Author:
    Start date: (yyyymm dd)
    End date: (yyyymm dd)

    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site