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    Re: Units and area. was: gipsy moth iv
    From: Greg R_
    Date: 2006 Jul 17, 17:11 -0500

    Marc wrote:

    > IFR used to be I Follow Roads,  is that what you had in mind?

    Ding! We have a winner. Tell 'em what they've won, Bob...  :-)

    How'd you happen to know that little piece of trivia? Are you a flyer
    too?

    --
    GregR

    --- Marc Bernstein <bernstein.marc@gmail.com> wrote:

    >
    > IFR used to be I Follow Roads,  is that what you had in mind?
    >
    > On 7/17/06, Greg R. <gregr_ingest@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > Red wrote:
    > >
    > > >  Incidentally, in the US, our airline industry *has* in fact
    > abandoned the
    > > > nautical mile, if they ever used it.
    > >
    > > Au contraire, as the holder of an FAA commercial pilot certificate
    > (plus
    > > instrument and ground instructor ratings), I think I can speak with
    > a little
    > > authority on that subject...  :-)
    > >
    > > Unless things changed overnight and nobody told us, nautical miles
    > IS (are?)
    > > the standard for measuring distances in air navigation these days
    > (I
    > > remember when the majority of airspeed indicators were in MPH and
    > the mild
    > > "consternation" that was caused back in the '70s when the industry
    > > standardized on knots/nautical).
    > >
    > > Take a look at any IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) navigation chart,
    > and
    > > you'll see that the routes and distances between electronic NAVAIDS
    > (mostly
    > > VOR/VORTACs these days) are all labeled in nautical miles. Statute
    > miles are
    > > only useful for giving non-aviation passengers an idea of how fast
    > we're
    > > moving over the ground at any given time...  :-)
    > >
    > > --
    > > GregR
    > >
    > > P.S. Bonus points to anyone who knows the "alternate" definition
    > for IFR....
    > > :-)
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Red" <hellosailor@verizon.net>
    > > To: <NavList@fer3.com>
    > > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:50 AM
    > > Subject: [NavList 766] Re: Units and area. was: gipsy moth iv
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    > > > Robert-
    > > >  " It is also intesting to note that, near as I can reckon, the
    > nautical
    > > mile
    > > > has never been abandoned by the aviation and marine industries in
    > favour
    > > of the
    > > > kilometer. "
    > > >
    > > >  Incidentally, in the US, our airline industry *has* in fact
    > abandoned the
    > > > nautical mile, if they ever used it. While pilots may still use
    > knots and
    > > > nautical miles (I don't know how they'd vote) if you ask any US
    > air
    > > carrier they
    > > > will tell you airspeeds and distances in plain statute miles and
    > mph. They
    > > tend
    > > > to schedule aircraft at a convenient 500 statute mph these days,
    > which is
    > > also a
    > > > bit less fuel thirsty than what the aircraft really can do. I
    > don't know
    > > of any
    > > > official policies or pronouncements about this, that's just what
    > "every"
    > > carrier
    > > > in the small number I've dealt with in the past ten years has
    > used.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    > >
    >
    > >
    >


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