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Re: The Weather Channel's Moon is "Wrong"
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2006 Jun 29, 17:06 EDT
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2006 Jun 29, 17:06 EDT
Chuck wrote: "Perhaps from an Apollo spacecraft?" And Lu wrote: "That was going to be my guess also. Since the eyes of the man-in-the-moon are in the center rather than on the edge, we must be seeing a mosaic from an Apollo spacecraft. Apollo 8?" Yes! The photograph shows a large portion of the Moon that is never visible from Earth. The photographer was directly above a point just south of Mare Crisium --the "eye" that we normally see from Earth as a small oval very close to the Moon's limb. Any of the Apollo spacecraft that travelled to lunar distances (Apollos 8 and 10-17) would have seen something similar as they departed the Moon, but the most likely image is AS11-44-6667 taken from Apollo 11 on July 22, 1969 around 0700 GMT. The Weather Channel's graphic can be obtained from that photograph almost perfectly by shrinking it down and rotating 90 degrees. If you google the image ID, you can find over two dozen versions of it on the web. There is also a small possibility that an image from Apollo 16 was used instead, but it's not as good a match. [btw, it's not a mosaic. it's an actual single photograph taken with a Hasselblad camera with a 70mm lense] I think it's a little amazing that an image of the Moon showing it in an orientation that's absolutely impossible to see from the surface of the Earth has become the Weather Channel's iconic image of the Full Moon. We Earthlings have seen the same mottled features on the face of the Moon since the beginning of history, but somehow, someone grabbed a view from space that can never be seen from here on terra firma. I mentioned we can get a line of position from the image. The exact center of the Moon's visible disk, taken from the original image, is located just south of Mare Crisium at 6 North, 59 East. These are the coordinates in the usual lunar system where the visible center as seen from Earth (after librations) is 0, 0. So we can draw a line from the Moon's center through that point 6N, 59E on the surface and extend it for some tens of thousands of miles into space. Naturally it goes nowhere near the Earth. It points about 60 degrees away from the Earth in the direction of the trailing Lagrangian point. The photographer and his companions --Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins-- must have been situated somewhere along that line of position. If we had a scale for the image, we could measure the Moon's semidiameter and turn it into a distance along that line, fixing the position in space. In the absence of scale information, we have a statement from one NASA image caption that the spacecraft was 10,000 nautical miles from the Moon at this time. That's consistent with the image and the approximate time, but it sounds like a rough estimate to me. Another caption gives the distance as 18,000 kilometers, which sounds more precise, but it's just a metric conversion from 10,000 n.m. -FER 42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W. www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars