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Re: At the centre of time
From: Douglas Denny
Date: 2009 Oct 20, 16:45 -0700
From: Douglas Denny
Date: 2009 Oct 20, 16:45 -0700
I believe the reason is the different geodetic frames of reference used for
the Earth's geoid between the Ordnance Survey of Britain and GPS system geoid
used.
The Greenwich meridian is(was?) mapped by and linked to the Ordnance Survey to GB36 coordinates.
GPS however uses a different coordinate system for the Earth's geoid:- WSG84.
For example: my location by GPS WGS84 is
Lat: N. 50-49.910 Long: W. 000-51.300
using the same GPS unit, but set to GB36 coordinates it is:
Lat: N. 50-49.880 Long: W. 000-51,209
There is a map somewhere in the Journal of the Royal Institute of Navigation
showing the discrepancies between BG36 and WGS84 for Britain. It is greatest
somewhere in the NW of Scotland if I remember rightly. I'll post it if I can
find it for interest's sake.
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There is a very interesting story regarding the Greenwich observatory and
mapping coordinate systems - from WW2.
The use of the highly accurate microwave bombing aid OBOE revealed an
interesting anomaly in the relative mapping between the British Ordnance
survey grid for maps used in Britain, and for those used on the continent
based on the Paris observatory.
Because OBOE was so very accurate even at distances approaching the Rhur in
Germany - down to a few yards - there was a requirement to ensure accurate
bombing, for very accurate assessment of the distances between the OBOE
stations and the target for bombing. Use was made of maps of the continent
and those of Britain.
As part of this exercise, a check was made of the link between the two
coordinate systems which depended on the survey made (I think in the late
nineteenth century {someone will be able to correct me on this no doubt}
between London, Greenwich and the Paris observatories, when it was found a
discrepancy of about 17 feet was discovered in the exact position of the
telescopes which made the observations for the establishing of the survey
grids at London and Paris.
This was disconcerting because it had not been found before and was not
acceptable for the survey accuracies involved.
No one knew how this came about ......
......... until someone suddenly realised that the transit instument at
Greenwich used for the survey was the 'old' (Bradley, I think) instrument and
not the 'new' Airey transit instrument currently used.
The Bradley instrument was 17 feet away in the other room - next to the Airey instrument !
Problem solved.
I know the last person who used the Airey Transit instrument on a regular
basis as it was used until around the 1960's I believe. He is a very pleasant
and most interesting chap to talk to. He is the chairman of an historical
instruments society here in Britain.
Douglas Denny.
Chichester. England.
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Original text:
Interesting point regarding the shift of the prime meridian. I encountered
the same thing when I was there, my GPS did not agree with the stripe in the
courtyard. Aside from the political envy expressed by one reviewer as to why
the prime meridian shifted, what were the reasons for that shift?
Best Regards
Brad
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