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Re: NAVIGATION-L going strong
From: Geoffrey Kolbe
Date: 2006 Jun 3, 08:31 -0500
Just to balance the views on the two lists....
Alex wrote:
>I don't know how these 2% were computed, but apparently some people
>feel OK with this percentage of undelivered messages:-)
>Whenever my message does not reach the list for any reason,
>I usually KNOW this (because I do not receive it from the list)
>So I can send it again.
I for one was not and would not be happy if 2% of the messages went
missing. Missing messages was a "frequent" occurrence on the Nav-L list -
or so it seemed to me anyway. And though you can sent
your contribution again, the list is like a conversation and a posting
loses impact and relevance if it is late.
Alex continued;
> > In the meantime, what are the BENEFITS of sticking with Navigation-L?
>
>Good and simple web interface
>(no advertising, no graphics, very fast, even with slow connection)
>Easy to find recent messages
>(Sorting on your screen by several parameters,
>by author, by time, and by topic).
>Easy to change or modify the topic in any way you wish.
>No password and no registration with Google for using the
>web interface,
The "web interface" for me is via my email program, as it was for Nav-L -
which I would have guessed would be true for most listers (though I could
be wrong). As far as I am concerned, there is no difference between NavList
and Nav-L as far as advertising or graphics (none of either), or speed of
connection. The only difference is that there is a helpful little signature
at the bottom telling us how to post and un-subscribe. How to un-subscribe
always seemed to be a problem on the Nav-L list. People couldn't be
bothered to dig out their introductory email or go to the Nav-L website to
find out how to do this.
My email program (Eudora) does all the sorting Alex mentioned, as it always
did with Nav-L. Though I have not tried modifying a topic on NavList, I
found no trouble starting a new topic simply by changing the subject in my
email.
Remember, you had to "register" with the Nav-L list as well. You did not
get to play unless the list master said you could....
Alex finished by saying;
>and in general,
>Independence of a "big corporation" on the web.
>(Of all those "big corporations" on the web, I respect
>Google most, by the way, but still my philosophy is that
>if something can be done without "help" of a big company,
>it should be done without:-)
>
>(It is for the same reason that I prefer to use Linux instead of
>Windoze and other Microsoft products, though of course many of
>my friends ask similar questions you do: what are the advantages etc.
These are matters of philosophy, not practicality. As far as I am
concerned, NavList seems to be functioning efficiently, which is all I want.
Geoffrey Kolbe
Dr Geoffrey Kolbe, Border Barrels Ltd., Newcastleton, Roxburghshire, TD9
0SN, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0)13873 76253 Fax: +44 (0)13873 76214
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From: Geoffrey Kolbe
Date: 2006 Jun 3, 08:31 -0500
Just to balance the views on the two lists....
Alex wrote:
>I don't know how these 2% were computed, but apparently some people
>feel OK with this percentage of undelivered messages:-)
>Whenever my message does not reach the list for any reason,
>I usually KNOW this (because I do not receive it from the list)
>So I can send it again.
I for one was not and would not be happy if 2% of the messages went
missing. Missing messages was a "frequent" occurrence on the Nav-L list -
or so it seemed to me anyway. And though you can sent
your contribution again, the list is like a conversation and a posting
loses impact and relevance if it is late.
Alex continued;
> > In the meantime, what are the BENEFITS of sticking with Navigation-L?
>
>Good and simple web interface
>(no advertising, no graphics, very fast, even with slow connection)
>Easy to find recent messages
>(Sorting on your screen by several parameters,
>by author, by time, and by topic).
>Easy to change or modify the topic in any way you wish.
>No password and no registration with Google for using the
>web interface,
The "web interface" for me is via my email program, as it was for Nav-L -
which I would have guessed would be true for most listers (though I could
be wrong). As far as I am concerned, there is no difference between NavList
and Nav-L as far as advertising or graphics (none of either), or speed of
connection. The only difference is that there is a helpful little signature
at the bottom telling us how to post and un-subscribe. How to un-subscribe
always seemed to be a problem on the Nav-L list. People couldn't be
bothered to dig out their introductory email or go to the Nav-L website to
find out how to do this.
My email program (Eudora) does all the sorting Alex mentioned, as it always
did with Nav-L. Though I have not tried modifying a topic on NavList, I
found no trouble starting a new topic simply by changing the subject in my
email.
Remember, you had to "register" with the Nav-L list as well. You did not
get to play unless the list master said you could....
Alex finished by saying;
>and in general,
>Independence of a "big corporation" on the web.
>(Of all those "big corporations" on the web, I respect
>Google most, by the way, but still my philosophy is that
>if something can be done without "help" of a big company,
>it should be done without:-)
>
>(It is for the same reason that I prefer to use Linux instead of
>Windoze and other Microsoft products, though of course many of
>my friends ask similar questions you do: what are the advantages etc.
These are matters of philosophy, not practicality. As far as I am
concerned, NavList seems to be functioning efficiently, which is all I want.
Geoffrey Kolbe
Dr Geoffrey Kolbe, Border Barrels Ltd., Newcastleton, Roxburghshire, TD9
0SN, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0)13873 76253 Fax: +44 (0)13873 76214
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