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    Re: NAVIGATION-L going strong
    From: Geoffrey Kolbe
    Date: 2006 Jun 3, 08:31 -0500

    Just to balance the views on the two lists....

    Alex wrote:


    >I don't know how these 2% were computed, but apparently some people
    >feel OK with this percentage of undelivered messages:-)
    >Whenever my message does not reach the list for any reason,
    >I usually KNOW this (because I do not receive it from the list)
    >So I can send it again.


    I for one was not and would not be happy if 2% of the messages went
    missing. Missing messages was a "frequent" occurrence on the Nav-L list -
    or so it seemed to me anyway. And though you can sent
    your  contribution  again, the list is like a conversation and a posting
    loses impact and relevance  if it is late.

    Alex continued;


    > > In the meantime, what are the BENEFITS of sticking with Navigation-L?
    >
    >Good and simple web interface
    >(no advertising, no graphics, very fast, even with slow connection)
    >Easy to find recent messages
    >(Sorting on your screen by several parameters,
    >by author, by time, and by topic).
    >Easy to change or modify the topic in any way you wish.
    >No password and no registration with Google for using the
    >web interface,


    The "web interface" for me is via my email program, as it was for Nav-L -
    which I would have guessed would be true for most listers (though I could
    be wrong). As far as I am concerned, there is no difference between NavList
    and Nav-L as far as advertising or graphics (none of either), or speed of
    connection. The only difference is that there is a helpful little signature
    at the bottom telling us how to post and un-subscribe. How to un-subscribe
    always seemed to be a problem on the Nav-L list. People couldn't be
    bothered to dig out their introductory email or go to the Nav-L website to
    find out how to do this.

    My email program (Eudora) does all the sorting Alex mentioned, as it always
    did with Nav-L. Though I have not tried modifying a topic on NavList, I
    found no trouble starting a new topic simply by changing the subject in my
    email.

    Remember, you had to "register" with the Nav-L list as well. You did not
    get to play unless the list master said you could....

    Alex finished by saying;

    >and in general,
    >Independence of a "big corporation" on the web.
    >(Of all those "big corporations" on the web, I respect
    >Google most, by the way, but still my philosophy is that
    >if something can be done without "help" of a big company,
    >it should be done without:-)
    >
    >(It is for the same reason that I prefer to use Linux instead of
    >Windoze and other Microsoft products, though of course many of
    >my friends ask similar questions you do: what are the advantages etc.


    These are matters of philosophy, not practicality.  As far as I am
    concerned, NavList seems to be functioning efficiently, which is all I want.

    Geoffrey Kolbe

    Dr Geoffrey Kolbe, Border Barrels Ltd., Newcastleton, Roxburghshire, TD9
    0SN, United Kingdom
    Tel: +44 (0)13873 76253  Fax: +44 (0)13873 76214


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