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Re: Refraction
From: Marcel Tschudin
Date: 2005 Aug 17, 01:19 +0300
From: Marcel Tschudin
Date: 2005 Aug 17, 01:19 +0300
Refering to my comment: > "Probably one should calculate refractive index for the dominant > wavelength > depending on the object's zenith distance?" Frank wrote: > Depends on your goal. If you're trying to portray the appearance of stars > at > very low altitudes in the atmosphere, then you should calculate > refraction > for each color of the spectrum (split up as you choose). When you see > stars > very low in the sky, they do, in fact, look like little "French flags" > because > the red light is refracted more than the blue light. For navigational > purposes, this is irrelevant, but for the project you briefly described > earlier it > might be interesting to include. The idea behind my original thoughts went in the following direction. If refraction would be calculated by integration (the transcribed Basic program) the calculation would require a value for the refractive index which itself depends on the wavelength and the dominant visible wavelength from the zenith angle. The visible light of the sun at noon is apparently greenish yellow (probabely around 540nm) and at sunset oringe/red.(probabely araound 600nm). The most simple approximation of the dominant visible wavelength would in this case have been e.g. 595nm minus half of the altitude angle. But as already mentioned, I do not - at least for the moment - intend to use this program to calculate refraction values. Frank wrote further > But be sure to include extinction. NO stars are visible > to the unaided eye right at the horizon since the extinction > is on the order of twelve magnitudes. And how about the moon, the subject of your workshop? This reminds me of an approximation I made some years ago on the visiblity of the moon. A surprising result - at least for me, living normaly in the mountains - was, that it seems not possible to see a moonrise or moonset at sea level. It was only here, at my temporary domicile, that I actually could verify this. As soon the moon gets closer to the horizon its light turns rust coloured and is finally "switched-off" around one to two degrees about the horizon. Or, has anyone of you ever seen a real moonrise or moonset, where the moon really touched the sea at the horizon? I mean whether you have seen it from your faverd location afloat and not from those locations http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/atoptics/moonflat.htm http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/atoptics/issmoon.htm Marcel