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Dan,
I enjoy the list and find the archive great reading.  In fact I wish I had a 
copy of the archive on my laptop so that I could read it at home. I live on 
my boat in the summertime and don?t have Internet after I leave work. Do you 
have the archive in a way that you can send me a copy? How do you search it? 
Do you use a database program setup as a front end?
Thanks,
Robert Gainer

>
> From: Dan Allen 
> Date: 2006/04/04 Tue PM 05:37:44 EDT
> To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
> Subject: NAV-L vs. Google NavList
>
> (* Reposted to NAV-L *)
>
> On 4 Apr 2006, at 10:27 AM, George Huxtable wrote:
>
> > With Frank in charge, I fear it would be like playing a game of
> > street football, when the other side owns the ball.
> >
> > I am going to need more persuading, before venturing into this new
> > lifeboat, until certain that the old familiar vessel is actually
> > sinking, not just suffering a temporary breakdown.
>
> I understand your concern George.  If NAV-L has just had a minor
> problem and will return to reliable service, I do not know if we
> really need a Google Group.
>
> However, if NAV-L support is not long for this world, then we do need
> to jump ship to something that will last into the future.
>
> I think Frank did the prudent thing: he created a list to get it
> going as a backup.  He took action.  I like that about Frank.  If NAV-
> L was down, how was Frank going to bring it up for discussion on the
> list?  He couldn't.  But he could get something else going, which he
> accomplished.
>
> The hard question is this: is NAV-L under Dan Hogan's excellent care
> finished?  If so, I say we all move to the Google NavList group and
> move on.  However, I do not know if this is the case or not.  It does
> appear that I have been getting NAV-L messages the past couple of
> days, but I think the real issue is the list archives.
>
> It seems to me the decision revolves around the list archives.  I
> personally never use the list archives because I have my own copy of
> every mail since July of 1997.  I just search through it all on my
> own machine.  My archive is local and does not depend upon a website.
>
> Of course new members need the list archives, as do many others.  If
> the NAV-L list archive is gone for good, perhaps a move to Google's
> group should happen.  On April 1st, 2006 Dan Hogan wrote on NAV-L:
>
> "Well I don't know of any servers that will accept our archives.  So
> I am open to suggestions."
>
> Frank tried Google Groups as a proof of concept.  Most (all?) of us
> have never created a group or tried to get one going.  I want to
> thank Frank Reed for taking the initiative and his time to provide a
> possible solution.  Now we need to determine if we should all move to
> it and embrace it and move forward, or someone else should propose a
> different solution - and do the work of getting that solution going.
> Until somebody else can provide as much as Frank has provided, I do
> not think there is much to recommend hanging on to the NAV-L list,
> and I think there is a lot to recommend us moving to the NavList on
> Google Groups.
>
> Comments?  Proposals?  Solutions?  They are all welcomed of course.
>
> Dan Allen
>

   

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